RealDeal v Balla, need to talk Options

[{-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa]

RealDeal --I need to talk to you about these screenshots. These are from one of your members to one of ours.
fuballa@aol.com

This post has been edited by {-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa: 04/26/03 4:28pm

[{-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa]

--these screenshots you sent me of the conversation you had have a few MAJOR problems.

1. The crosshair has been COPY/PASTED over your REAL crosshair. If you d/l the screenshot, you'll notice the extreme pixel contrast. You used the same crosshair in EVERY one of your screenshots. I don't mean your crosshair mod, I mean the copy/pasted crosshair. The pixelation is the EXACT same in EVERY screenshot. Thus you copy/pasted the stock crosshair over your cheat crosshair.

2. To further prove my copy/paste theory....when your screenshot writer takes a pic, it has the words "Wrote screenshot/Shotxxx.tga". These words are OVER the crosshair, directly in the middle of it. Your crosshair in the SS is OVER the text, instead of being under it like it should be.


I am extremely curious to know why you would doctor a screenshot to send us a text of a conversation. Even if you had a dot crosshair or some special mod for a crosshair...why would you hide that?. IMO you copy/pasted over an triggerbot crosshair which you KNEW we'd pick up on. Fortunately for us you suck w/ photoshop and were extrememly hasty in your work. Now we can add your name to our list next to DiOnYsOs' name.

Thanks for your efforts-
{-BaH-} Balla

This post has been edited by {-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa: 04/26/03 4:29pm

[{-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa]

Here is another example of the exact same pixelation error that you screwed up. Thanks for busting yourself. No wonder you were taking DiO's back so hardcore.

[99SVTCobra]

Hey Ballah the funny thing is, those screenshots were taken by Dio. Dio sent those screenshots to me to show me that your little buddy was accusing me of cheating. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you come on our forum and publically bash me. I was not present for that conversation. It is funny that you examined these screenshots so closely, but fail to notice that Dio is the one doing all the talking.

This post has been edited by 99SVTCobra: 04/26/03 4:24pm

[{-BaH-} Fu BaH LLa]

either way--I figured it was you since you sent the e-mail. I don't know your names or emails...sorry for putting your name in there. this then implicates DiO.
Sorry cobra for the confusion. Him talking really didn't mean that it was his SS or yours.

anywho, whoever it was!!! needs to be dealt with by somebody over there.

Someone asked me why we banned you the other day....I didn't ban anyone. Nobody except for DiO is banned from our servers for 3 reasons.

1. Failure to send in forced random SS on time.

2. Failure to send in the correct forced random SS (even of correct map lol).

3. Failure to produce a CLEAN SS now! Ty dio ---lol

All apologies to Cobra

[Johnzillah]

Im no expert but it looks legit to me. A lot of guys run diffrent crosshairs. Is that cheating? I thought the screenshots were forced to see if someone was running a chameleon wallhack. Could it be during the tga to jpeg converson you loose certain aspects of the image. Here is my screen shot and it almost looks the same near the crosshair. I doubt Cobra is cheating.

Zillah

[dionysos]

well since you DELETED three time my threads on your forum I will post here what I have post on your forum. It's nice to ignore someone you played with so many time respect.

It's a terrible mistake you have done by banning me cuz i wasn't cheating. The facts are this was the first time someone forced a screenshot on me. So I was a little confused. This is why I have send some randoms SS of snowy. The 4 first ss taken were the good ones and they look a little weird becuz I was dead when they were taken you can see in the bottom left yolala in red. that mean he killed me. secondly I have a completely clear folder since I have do a complete reinstall of mohaa and spearhead to be able to play in the FK server in my clan MOB server 2. If I use any skin or whatever SVpure will detect it and i will not be able to join the server thats why I dont have any skins in my folders you can scan it do whatever you want but im clean. third why you have banned Cobra in my clan jampack told me he was jumping and killing people then you scan him and found a cheat or its just becuz he wear the mob tag. Finnaly I don't know why you have go to see my guys balla and don't have talk to me to set this problem. I have nothing to hide and I will say that again I tottaly stands against cheating you are making a terrible error...

thanks again for banning us with no real proofs...

and ps don't delete this thread again...

Oh and balla I dont have photoshop... I don't even know how it works.

I have talk to wizz but he was ignoring me then kickded me and I have sent you the real SS the 4 first one + 6 randoms screenies the email sent to Wizz the don't care about the last ones on snowy I was confused... just ask neo he would told ya I was lost its why i say wtf on the forced ones... and for the crosshairs thats easy go in Options / Video / Brightness... if im cheating this is my cheat (brightness) and of course play the best MOB guys... Im sure if any mob guy go in your server they can have scores like mine.
Someone of your clan also talked to me like a month ago that you were really pissed out of me becuz i waz doing too much good on your server and you were talking in my back in your private forum thats why i wasnt comming lately. Then I said why not and now you accuse me you have the right screnies + some randoms and you accuse me of cheating without any proof... or just because I have added more screenshots. NICE

Again thanks for deleting my post in your forums I have sent it a couples time to see if you are good guys... this trully sadden me.

This post has been edited by dionysos: 04/26/03 5:09pm

[Sigma-Chi]

Balla....I have some very extensive PS experience and do see what your saying....



..however, if you also possess knowledge of PS in a professional sense, you would understand that:

One, yes you could be correct...only DIO can tell you that.

Two, any noobskool using PS can easily create and or damamge the quality of an image document by not utilizing the correct tools and not using the correct editing/format for saving. (Conversion from RGB color, indexed color, bitmap, lab, grayscale, ect....)

Not having the original image file, I have no idea.

My point:

Have some respect for your self before posting and making such implications towards anyone, it makes you look even lower than the person cheating. Just sounds like you're whining.

Next time, contact the clan's leader or most significant member directly and not the forums. Every member is listed and easily accessible on their site. I am sure that MOB will take responsibility for their members as long you handle your complaint professionally and with respect towards their other memebers who were not involved.


And finally, have you even talked to DIO to see what he has to say?

Thats like convicting a guy and telling him he's guilty without even giving him an attorney....or even letting him speak!

This post has been edited by Sigma-Chi: 04/26/03 5:02pm

[dionysos]

Sigma I have tried to talk to them but they seems to ignore me and they deleted my post.
I have been on their server but wizz kicked me so I had not the luck to talk to them. Well since they will come here and make false accusation on me thats got no point and just shock me cause they are wrong. I let you make a scan of my computer if you want im sure faster got the skills to do that or anyone else. If I post again on your forum don't delete it again it will only show that you guys have no maturity.

as johnzilla said Could it be during the tga to jpeg converson you loose certain aspects of the image. Here is my screen shot and it almost looks the same near the crosshair. I doubt Cobra is cheating.

im using Pic2Pic Plus you can find it at download.com
and converting at the highest level of quality.
you can do the test if you want and I use it for mass converting files
i can convert all my screenie in one click.


Finnaly balla this is the most funny accusations becuz why I would do that ??? I have nothing to proove. then this make nonsense I don't have to waste my time on reworking screenshots for a thing that i know I don't cheat.

This post has been edited by dionysos: 04/26/03 5:23pm

[little old man]

Sigma-chi you are right. Bah Fu BaH LLa if you have a problem with any MOB player you should have first contacted us by E-mail first. We don't hide all you have to do is get them from the forums page.

Now you have accused two of our best players of cheating and the only prove you have our a few SS of a cross hair. There are no other players in these SS just cross hairs.Now I've never been to your server but are all cross hairs other then standard that come with the game banned from your server

What this sounds like to me is a couple of players come into a clan server. These players are a lot better then the people playing on this server and their scores show it .This does not make the Clan that runs the server look good so they ban the two players because they say they must be cheating.BaH says Dio didn't send in SS in a reasonable amount of time and when he did they were wrong.No one but Dio knows if this is true or not. Mob handles this the same way.

I believe you just didn't want to getting beat-up in your own server.You have the right to run your server the way you want and to play at the level you want to. If players come in that are a few levels above you tell them this and if they don't then take action

One last thing (again don't know if this is true never been to your site only whats posted here). It is not a good idea to delete posts it kind of makes people think you have something to hide.

If by chance you have another problem and you can't find any E-mail addresses mine is
littleoldman@mobclan.com and I will see it get to the right person

[Sigma-Chi]

How about I play on your server BAH and when I kick your ass and you accuse me of cheating, we both immediately log onto FK's which runs SV_Pure and see if I'm cheating or not!


Want some cheese with that whine?

If I really wanted, I could doctor a SS to make it look like whatever I wanted, I could even become you Balla!

It would only take aboutt two minutes in Photoshop........but why bother?

This is just a game!

*shakes head*

[{DDS}OveRLorD]

BAH, u make me sick. Balla, your the same one that came into GDEC and ammited to using a wallhack to me. I use to be called {GDEC} Vassili Zaitsev. You accused me of cheating, while u made unbelievable shots. So I said, You using a skin?, and i quote you saying "Yes, and I know u are too". Though i no-longer have that screen shot, becuase my clan just started using Pandora 1.0.5 which doens't allow anything thats not "outtta-the-box" and also scans your exe, binaries, and checks for renamed pk3's, so to make sure I had everything "outta-the-box", i re-installed. It's a shame, I wish i could've posted that jpeg up here.

I suggest every clan use the newest version of pandora and make sure you download the clients since u need that to log in and connect.

Pandora 1.0.5 even catches those "undetectable" things like chams, permuation, retribution, etc".

My only suggestion is, if you want a cheat free server, make it pure, or use pandora. BAH is very disrespectful, and we will NEVER play them in a match.

By the way Little Old Man, i recruited your working buddy Rottin' Gutpile. I'm gonna make him a killing machine, mark my words

[SOKHAR_[H]]

ya but if it scans the exe then we would have to have the cd in the drive no nocd cracks right

[little old man]

Overlord Gutpile is a fine player but i know his weak points ha ha.Just put a runny egg sandwich out and he is done This means I have to stop talking to him

[{DDS}OveRLorD]

hahaha. I'll try that sometime.

No, supposely the new version, allows cd cracks. Becuase it told me to install the cd crack before installing pandora.

But I tested Pandora 1.0.5 out, whew, what a beauty. it cuaght hacked exe programs like permaution, retribution, etc. ANYTHING renamed. It also prevents u from changing your name inside the game and other little stuff. It doesn't even let u ENTER THE SERVER if you have a cheat installed. Man, how that would do alot of good on the MOB # 1 server, instead of wasting MOB's time by making them spectate, becuase for some reason, people feel the need to go in their and cheat, so they look better. I hope they die