wow! anyone ever heard any of this before? Options

[UNDEAD 1]

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends" of the Clintons .[/color]



1) James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.



2) Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.



3) Vince Foster - Former White House councilor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Body found in a wooded park with no dirt on the soles of his shoes. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.



4) Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.



5) C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.



6) Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".



7) Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.



8) Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.



9) James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas .



10) James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.



11) Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.



12) Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.



13) Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.



14) Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.



15) Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.



16) Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.



17) Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.



18) Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.



19) Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.





20) Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. DiedNovember 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.



21) Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.



22) Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.



23) Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.



24) Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.



25) Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.



26) Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,1994, when his plane exploded.



27) Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.



THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:



28) Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.



29) Keith McMaskle - Died - stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.



30) Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.



31) Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.



33) James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".



34) Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.



35) Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.



THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:



36) Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

37) Captain Scott J . Reynolds

38) Sgt. Brian Hanley

39) Sgt. Tim Sabel

40) Major General William Robertson

41) Col. William Densberger

42) Col. Robert Kelly

43) Spec. Gary Rhodes

44) Steve Willis

45) Robert Williams

46) Conway LeBleu

47) Todd McKeehan



[color="black"] Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clinton 's! This makes corrupt politicians look like Sunday school teachers .

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

Seen it before. I heard Hillary's "Hit List" is longer.

[M@ster of Dis@ster]

LOL! I guess Hillary was right. There really is a vast right wing conspiracy out to get her and hubby. Who else could have combed through the 100,000+ who've worked with or had some contact with the Clinton's or the Democratic party over the last 20 years, compliled a list of everyone who died, and point a finger at the Clintons!?!?! LOL. Hillary giving the go ahead for the assasination of almost 50 people because they dared worked with her!?!? Okey Dokey. And the twin towers were really destroyed by Isreali agents whose plan was to conscript America into ther war again Middle East enemies more fully!

Sorry Undead, you're a cool dude, but this is ludicrous. The Clinton's, who aren't even in "power" anywhere, have and continue to assassinate dozens of people who've had any connection to them or their party? Come on! IMO, all this proves is that anyone can make a compelling conspiracy theory if you ignore any counter-arguments or evidence. After all, I can make a fairly convincing argument about the Isreali thingy...as long as you don't poke any holes!

This post has been edited by M@ster of Dis@ster: 08/08/07 10:21pm

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

And I bet Bush is the one who lured Katrina to hit New Orleans, planted evidence against Micheal Jackson, blew up the twin towers, caused global warming, and is the guy with Paris Hilton on that video tape. Pretty good for an idiot.

[pezking]

MOD, the Clintons have been in power since the late 70's. Atleast in Arkansas. Then the free world. Then NY. I don't think it's just a strong coincidence that majority of those people just died. Gun shot to the back of the head ruled as a suicide? Give me a break. Living in the DC area, I have many friends that worked with or under both Bill and Hillary. I've heard nice things about them, they're both very charming and intelligent, but never cross them. I hear that from everyone. Never cross them.

[M@ster of Dis@ster]

MOD, the Clintons have been in power since the late 70's. Atleast in Arkansas. Then the free world. Then NY. I don't think it's just a strong coincidence that majority of those people just died. Gun shot to the back of the head ruled as a suicide? Give me a break. Living in the DC area, I have many friends that worked with or under both Bill and Hillary. I've heard nice things about them, they're both very charming and intelligent, but never cross them. I hear that from everyone. Never cross them.

Right. Never cross them, or they'll have you asassinated. LOL! Really, I'm sorry, if you believe this, you don't deserve the right to vote.

As long as Hillary's a senator the assinationations can continue! LOL! 102 senators inthe US...LOOK OUT!

[HammaTime]

Hey James, a great source for checking the validity of such things is the Snopes Urban Legends site. They have placed a big, fat red "False" label on this one. Their indepth discussion about the list is well worth the read:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

This post has been edited by HammaTime: 08/09/07 1:37am

[steel]

Let's see, urban myth on the Clintons

-versus-

3,682 soldiers killed, 30,000 wounded, 100,000+ civilians killed in the republican's war of choice, with governmental corruption and incompetance on a scale unparalleled in all of U.S. history. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

And who has killed all those soldiers and civilians and the brought down the twin towers? oh yeah, George Bush. It couldn't have been extreme Muslims that have vowed to Destroy the USA. That's just rediculus. All those suicide bombers must be Republicans.

[UNDEAD 1]

now you see i even got david to post .

[Nothing]

And who has killed all those soldiers and civilians and the brought down the twin towers? oh yeah, George Bush. It couldn't have been extreme Muslims that have vowed to Destroy the USA. That's just rediculus. All those suicide bombers must be Republicans.

I hear you snot, but the fact is that Bush has kept our own soldiers over there way too long. With no real reason to be there anymore and no exit strategy. He literally is killing our soldiers. Weather he wants to or not, its happening.

[pezking]

MOD, the Clintons have been in power since the late 70's. Atleast in Arkansas. Then the free world. Then NY. I don't think it's just a strong coincidence that majority of those people just died. Gun shot to the back of the head ruled as a suicide? Give me a break. Living in the DC area, I have many friends that worked with or under both Bill and Hillary. I've heard nice things about them, they're both very charming and intelligent, but never cross them. I hear that from everyone. Never cross them.

Right. Never cross them, or they'll have you asassinated. LOL! Really, I'm sorry, if you believe this, you don't deserve the right to vote.

As long as Hillary's a senator the assinationations can continue! LOL! 102 senators inthe US...LOOK OUT!

I'm not saying people will get asassinated, just saying that they're not people you would want to cross. Maybe all the above it some crazy coincidence... but it's obvious that they've fucked up before and maybe they were trying to cover their tracks. I'm not trying to turn this into some political debate at all... I'm not anti-Clinton. The Bush family has their own record of funding Nazis, drugs, DWI, etc.

Also, don't tell me I don't deserve to vote. I've served in the US Army, spent time pushing documents for new legislation, volunteered for my local chapters.... I'm pretty active in the whole process and to have someone tell me that I don't deserve to vote kind of pisses me off.

[M@ster of Dis@ster]

MOD, the Clintons have been in power since the late 70's. Atleast in Arkansas. Then the free world. Then NY. I don't think it's just a strong coincidence that majority of those people just died. Gun shot to the back of the head ruled as a suicide? Give me a break. Living in the DC area, I have many friends that worked with or under both Bill and Hillary. I've heard nice things about them, they're both very charming and intelligent, but never cross them. I hear that from everyone. Never cross them.

Right. Never cross them, or they'll have you asassinated. LOL! Really, I'm sorry, if you believe this, you don't deserve the right to vote.

As long as Hillary's a senator the assinationations can continue! LOL! 102 senators inthe US...LOOK OUT!

I'm not saying people will get asassinated, just saying that they're not people you would want to cross. Maybe all the above it some crazy coincidence... but it's obvious that they've fucked up before and maybe they were trying to cover their tracks. I'm not trying to turn this into some political debate at all... I'm not anti-Clinton. The Bush family has their own record of funding Nazis, drugs, DWI, etc.

Also, don't tell me I don't deserve to vote. I've served in the US Army, spent time pushing documents for new legislation, volunteered for my local chapters.... I'm pretty active in the whole process and to have someone tell me that I don't deserve to vote kind of pisses me off.

Sorry if I came off as insulting. Had a couple drinks, it came out a little mean. Sorry. However, read the "snoops" piece and you'll see how you put something like this together. Anyway, it is wrong to think, as the snoops article points out, that the Clinton's could literally get away with getting a couple dozen people assasinated without one legitimite news story on the matter. Instead, it was the product of a right wing group trying to smear Clinton when he was president. Sleazy, and something that people should not believe in any way, shape or form, especially with the snoops article pointing out how they misrepresent the circumstances of many of the persons deaths.

People have to stop letting their politcal affect affect how they process information. It is fine to be Clinton haters if you wish, but please, don't assume the are having all those around them who "know too much" assasinated. That's as crazy as assuming Bush and his neo-con friends were the one's behind blowing up the twin towers so they'd have an excuse to start their wars. I've seen e-mails on both. I believe neither without some compelling evidence that can't be debunked within a few seconds.

This post has been edited by M@ster of Dis@ster: 08/09/07 5:11pm

[Wino Ph.D.]

Wow, that's an old list. I think cowdoc first sent that to me when Bush and Gore were squareing off. Regardless of it's validity you guys sure have brought up a lot of issues. Let me start by saying I don't consider myself a Democrat or Republican, however I frequently vote Dem as their social policies tend not to be as backward as the Republicans. I also hate the way the Republicans use the religious factions in our country to try and maintain economic control of people, when they don't believe in half the shit they feedback to the religious right. Listen to Karl Rove gloat and you'll know what I mean.



First, all Americans have a right to vote, except those criminals that lose that civil right like Scooter Libby (although he'll get those back when Bush pardons him next January). It's a said fact that less than half of Americans exercise that right. It the least we could do for all those who fought and died and continue to fight so we can live in the greatest country in the world! (Sorry Canada, you guys are a close 2nd)



Next, the assholes that took down the twin towers are still running around in Afpakistan and we let them live and grow and expand instead of hunting them down and holding them responsible as we should have. Why? So our moron president could exercise some personal vendetta? Maybe, maybe not, hopefully history will reveal the true story before we're all trying to figure out how we're going to retire with no social security. In any case he has continually demonstrated himself a terrible manager of anything but prayers and deceiving the public. Any company worth their salt would have fired him long ago. Kind of funny to think that when Clinton was leaving office few Dems wanted him helping out with their campaigns, I'm willing to bet Bush will get the same treatment.



What are we left with? Well we still have the greatest country in the world although we're slightly more paranoid than we used to be. Unfortunately we're stuck in a cluter-fuck in Iraq where we can just go home but the staus quo is killing our soldiers and innocent civilians on a daily basis. Not to mention bolstering Iran and other countries who are probably more of a threat than Saddam ever was. We are then stuck spending trillions of dollars to rebuild a country that turns around and destroys our hardwork because they can't compromise on religious beliefs. While back at home our own internal infrastructure needs billions of dollars of updating, public schools in most places are below expectations, people go hungary and can't afford basic healthcare.



I guess that's enough ranting for now. Can you say Obama?

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