Movie Review, I finally saw Fahrenheit 911 Options

[cypher]

It was on cable so I watched it with my wife.

I should point out that I am as much a fan of Michael Moore as I am of our current President, holding neither in high regard.

I think Moore over-reached when portraying our President as a moron. The President himself brags about being nothing more than a 'C' student in college, I didn't see the point in reiterating this point over and over again.

I was disturbed by the blatant display of corporate greed by Haliburton, a company that will make billions on the backs of soldiers making $1200 a month and make a bunch of Bush's friends millionaires many times over in the process. Where are the 'outraged' Republicans that just couldn't live with themselves knowing that friends of the Clintons made $117,000 on the Whitewater deal? I am surprised that Moore did not capitalize on this fact.

For the most part, I thought the movie was foolish. Over and over again we saw pictures of Bush with the Saudi's. I am sure there are just as many pictures of Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter and every other modern President with the Saudi's, for no other reason than they were/are our allies.

I also thought it was foolish to ask Senators and Congressmen to volunteer their children for military service. I surmise he would have gotten the same reaction if he stood outside any Fortune 500 company headquarters.

Following the marine recruiters was just plain retarded. These guys are doing their jobs and for a lot of people, the military is a very attractive option. He made a big deal of the recruiters avoiding a suburban mall and going to the hood instead. Did he really think the 'priveleged' kids look forward to a military career?

All in all, the movie was ok, not great, not bad. Too much opinion and not enough facts.

One more thing, I will give $100 to the first person that finds the cunt who claimed that poor woman's grief was staged and punches her in the face and kicks her in the ovaries so she can never procreate. I have never in my life seen such cruelty spew from a human mouth. At that point in the movie I was disgusted to share the same air as my fellow American.

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Cypher

[XYZ Factor]

I'm gonna have to agree with you here Cypher.

I'm not a politics junkie by any means but I know propaganda when I see it. This movie was for entertainment purposes only...and it did entertain me.

This movie was touted as being a documentary. Michael Moore (in my opinion only) does not have the credentials to make a valid documentary. Documentaries are based on facts and PURELY facts. There was way too much of his political agenda thrown in there for it to be considered truely factual. Any bit of information can be skewed based on one's perception.

Remember, we only saw the footage that Michael Moore wanted us to see. Where are all of the other views of people telling the other side of the tale....thats what I would like to see in conjuction.

He did make SOME valid points that I agreed with but if anyone believed EVERYTHING he said in the film, they would have to be pretty weak-minded.

Also my $.02 (or $.01 depending on how you look at it)

[holden_caulfield]

I agree with Factor.

I might add that, there is no such thing as a purely factual documentary, just as there can be no unbiased version of history. Everyone tells a story that, inherently, contains a point of view.

In a lot of cases, however, Moore dips into deception and distortion.

[Blakjak]

XYZ documentaries, like every other historical examination, have a bias or slant of some sort that mingles with the pure facts. That's just the fact of examining events in certain lights. With that said, I agree much with what cypher said.

[Too Exclusive]

UGGHH
F911 is a piece of Liberal shit. Michael Moore should be shot for making that. The purpose of Fahrenheit 9/11 is to make Bush look like a moron (which we all know he is) so people will vote for his Skull & Bones cousin, Kerry. Fahrenheit 9/11 does nothing but WHITEWASH 9/11. I saw it in the theatre last summer and at the door people were handing out flyers to vote for Kerry. If anything, Fahrenheit 9/11 makes Bush sleep at night. If anyone has not seen this, I recommend you don't. It's a bunch of shitty Liberal propaganda, and just about the only thing Michael Moore gets right in the movie is the "airlift of evil". A REAL documentary film maker, a man named Alex Jones, went to the GOP convention in New York and asked Michael Moore why he didn't talk about the hardcore 9/11 issues like NORAD standing down, and fatass simply replied, "that would be un-American". Michael Moore is the epitome of someone that should be fucking shot.

[Silver]

Michael Moore is the epitome of someone that should be fucking shot.

wow for once i actually agree with a part of your post!

[Maddcapp]

The only moron here is you exclusive. Bush is overall a very good president, not great like a Reagan but good.

[Too Exclusive]

The only moron here is you exclusive. Bush is overall a very good president, not great like a Reagan but good.

that's a matter of opinion almost every single person i know (cause they're all liberal) will say that bush will go down in history as one of the WORST presidents.

[Silver]

thought nixon and clinton had that as a tie?

[Frosty]

Don't forget about Andrew Johnson and Taft.

[Too Exclusive]

nixon was prolly the worst as of now. see the whole bullshit wit bill clinton, yea he was a shitty president, 93 WTC bombing, OKC and all that shit was dun by him... but the reason most hate him si the wrong reason. so what he got a blowjob? john f kennedy used to have affairs all the time yet he's regarded highly as being one of the very good presidents.

[Frosty]

It's not the BJ, it's that he lied to the nation about it. That's the same reason Nixon was hated: he was a liar. And neither can even blame faulty intelligence for those lies.

[cypher]

LOL! I stay out of most of these arguments regarding politics for two reasons. Firstly, political opinions are just that, opinions. What makes any of you think anybody else wants to hear how you think they should live their lives? Secondly, most of you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Reagan was not a good president. While in college I met somebody that worked in the Reagan White House. She told me stories of Reagan walking around talking about movies he had been in as if they were actual events. He was mentally ill long before he left office, most likely before his second term. He lied about trading arms for hostages, was that a worse or better lie than lying about getting a blowjob? Is it a worse or better lie that W lied about Iraq's WMD collection? Bush Sr. was head of the CIA, do you really think he NEVER lied to the American people? If anybody knew how to keep a secret, it was him. Finally, how many people died as a result of Clintons blowjob? How many widows created? How many children forced to grow up without fathers and mothers, sisters and brothers?

Do any of you realize that Bush's right hand man, Karl, was also the man pulling the strings behind the arms for hostages deal during Reagan's presidency? He is guilty of multiple felonies, including treason, do you think he will ever spend a day in jail?

It is a fact that Reagan's ecenomic policies created the largest socio-ecenomical gap in this country since it's inception, a situation that the framers of the constitution expressly wanted to avoid. He created the largest deficit in the history of the modern world until W came along and made it even greater, this after Clinton left the White House with the largest budget surplus ever recorded.

You people really need to stop playing 'follow the leader' and get educated. As Malcolm X once said, "The thing I fear most is ignorance."

Cypher

[Druid]

I have to laugh anytime someone talks about Clinton's budget surplus,
Can you tell me what Clinton did to create the surplus.
I'll tell you nothing, it was a simple result of the decade long bull market and the rate the economy grow during his term, which translates into higher tax revenue.
Also it's the congress that spends the money which had a Republican majority for most if not all of Clinton's 2 terms. History shows the 6 months before he left office the economy was already heading for the tank.

Leave Reagenomics alone.
The figures can be cooked either way depending on how they look at it but Reagen did a fantastic job. The biggest reason we had the deficit we did when Reagen left office was because he lacked the line item veto to cut pork spending added to almost every piece of legislation he had to sign.
Reagen could of done for America what he had just done for California if it wasn't for his inability to cut congressional spending.
When Reagen became Governor of California it's budget deficit was over 30 Billion ( this was more than all other states combined ). Within a few years Reagen changed the deficit to a surplus. This was done in two ways, a temporary tax increase and using the line item veto countless times to cut unneeded spending.

One of my favorite Reagen witticisms that he was so well known for.
When he was campaigning for Governor, his opponent enlisted help from Senator Kennedy who went on the speaking tour. Kennedy would open his speech with ""Reagan has never held any political office before and here he is seeking the top spot in the government of California."
Needless to say Kennedy never said that again after Reagen publicly replied with
"Well, you know, come to think of it, the senator from Massachusetts never held ANY job before he became a senator."

LMAO

[All over but the Crying]

Laugh about it all you want to but Bush bought peoples vote with the promise of writing everyone a check with the surplusses. Then "Lowered" taxes and proceeded to increase spending. If I ran my personal life like our politicians ran this country. I would be considered a financial failure.