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post 05/22/04 9:53pm
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Most will say it is none of my business....but I really dont care what most think. It is somewhat my business and I will explain why later.

The breakup of MOB sucks dog nuts.

I first started playing this game over two years ago. After bouncing around from server to server, not knowing what the hell "Realism" was, I landed on a server, back then just named MOB. There were a bunch of arrogant pricks in there, Cypher, Realdeal, Epacy and a hacker named Pvt Ryan. The more I played on the server, the better I got at the game, and the more I got to know some of these arrogant pricks (Cypher never did warm up to me though.) There were also some real nice guys on this server, Druid, Nixon, Casino Killa. Over time I got to know all these fucktards and played on their server religiously. From this server is where I met alot of the members of my clan now, DMG. The server was always full and we always had a blast on there, until Realdeal showed up and started crying like a little girl, cause I was always spankin his ass. Anyway, thoughs were the days.

MOB was always a clan that people respected and wanted to be a part of. They always had strict recruiting policies and it was probably as hard back then to get into the MOB clan as it is to get into the real Mafia.

Fastforward a couple of years. The game of Mohaa has dwindled down considerably from where it was then. Primarily due to lack of support from the assholes at EA Games. New games have not really taken the place of Mohaa, people just got bored with the same 6 fucking maps. But, this is still mine and many others game of choice. There are a few of us left that support the hell out of this game and do our damndest to make sure there are servers to play on and websites to yuck it up in.

So when I see a break up of a once great clan like MOB it saddens me immensely. Now instead of one great clan, their are now two lesser clans. This does not do the Mohaa community any good. There has to be a clan that half the people love and want to join and the other half hate and want it to die. When a break up like this happens both sides lose. The first half dont want to join as badly and are able to get in more easily, which lessens the value of the clan and the second half quit hating and even caring about the clan they once despised.

I guess what I am saying is that when I see the names, Little Old Man, Nixon, etc., it will always remind me of MOB in the glory days. And I will always ask, Why couldnt they just work this shit out, so that two years of building a good Mohaa clan wasnt sent to hell in a short period of time.

Good luck to both clans. It sucks that it had to happen this way. Disagreements can and should always be worked out without a divorce. Now there are two clans we have to whip the shit out of to prove they should of stuck together.


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post 05/22/04 10:47pm
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QUOTE (={DMG}=ashe @ May 22 2004, 09:53 PM)
. It is somewhat my business and I will explain why later.


did u ever explain why? dry.gif


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sometimes things go wrong...i can only speak for myself on this but i am upset. not that an incident happened but to what it has led to. i felt that the mob clan was the only clan that if i was asked i would join (trust me i know im not any clan material(mabe lrrp)), many reasons why from the respect honorable clans gave MOB to the way things are done. (I worked for a few people that are not the type that you would pull shit with. a real guy would never admit they were mafia.) being asked is important...but alot of people left some very good players...they have been replaced with top notch guys in turn but the feeling that came with being involved in mob in my oponion would have diminished. but like u said its not my right to say. BUT mabe it can be more of a growth. when a family gets to large they expand terrority...if the brotherhood would have remained mabe they could have joined forces and included more men a division of sorts under a larger outfit. but that dont seem to be happening. i just hope things work out. ihope i dont get flamed for this either... crying.gif
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post 05/22/04 10:49pm
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QUOTE (={DMG}=ashe @ May 22 2004, 10:53 PM)
I first started playing this game over two years ago. After bouncing around from server to server, not knowing what the hell "Realism" was, I landed on a server, back then just named MOB. There were a bunch of arrogant pricks in there, Cypher, Realdeal, Epacy and a hacker named Pvt Ryan. The more I played on the server, the better I got at the game, and the more I got to know some of these arrogant pricks (Cypher never did warm up to me though.) There were also some real nice guys on this server, Druid, Nixon, Casino Killa. Over time I got to know all these fucktards and played on their server religiously. From this server is where I met alot of the members of my clan now, DMG. The server was always full and we always had a blast on there, until Realdeal showed up and started crying like a little girl, cause I was always spankin his ass. Anyway, thoughs were the days.

MOB was always a clan that people respected and wanted to be a part of.

thiis is the reason i would think
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That is one of the reasons. The others are because this is a gaming community that is somewhat dying. There are very few good, strong, long lasting clans out there. Clans provide servers, individuals dont. When a clan like MOB breaks apart, it hurts us all, cause more people lose interest and leave the game. Sites die, servers die and eventually there are more leaving then coming.....and the game I and many others have played for years, begins to go away. It is unevitable that it will, but I dont want to see it happen while I am still involved.


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post 05/22/04 10:56pm
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it really is up to EA, ever think of an on-line petittion? send to every clan see if that works...
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TLD or MOB....... I support the community, not the clans. Everyone from Real to Blak to LOM to whoever are the people that I support. Now I just have to be a reg for both clans, because both members for both clans are the real reason I enjoy the game as much as I do. So good luck to both of you, I'll support you either way.

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post 05/23/04 6:01am
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Ashe in his strange but always funny way brings up what has been on my mind of late.
This sudden parting of the ways for many members of MOB has left me bouncing between sad, frustrated and angry depending upon the day. I sit here thinking about the impact {MOB} has had on me and in a general sense this silly game we all love to play. Prior to playing the demo of MOHAA I was a huge flight and submarine simulator fan. Now even though by today’s standards Flacon4 is about as cutting edge as the original Atria pong, I still get a huge kick of my monthly dogfight battles with my old falcon4 buddy. I can remember it as if it was yesterday, when a friend recommended I download the MOHAA demo. I remember telling him, nah.. those 1st person shooters games are stupid. It was a few days after Christmas and I didn’t have to go back to work for 2 weeks. So I decided what the hell, I got time to waste. Within the 1st hour I was hooked. I remember playing The Hunt day and night for the rest of my Christmas vacation. In fact, there were a few times when my hands went numb from playing non-stop until I finally went to bed out of sheer exhaustion. I just couldn’t get enough of the game.

When MOHAA was released at the end of January 2002, I was in hog heaven. Wow… now I had almost a dozen maps to play. Let me tell you I played them all 100’s of times during the next few months. I would load up Gamespy, head for to the server with the lowest ping and an empty slot. Then one day I happened into a server by the name s4r and I found my new home for the next few months. By a strange coincidence, the s4r server is the only reason I found my way to {MOB}. During the time I made the s4r server my MOHAA home, there were dozens of people who I regularly played with/against. The two names I remember most are Oppression and Cleaner. I was in awe of the abilities of those two guys. Although what really made there names stick with me wasn’t how good of players they were but how much I enjoyed playing against them. Unlike many of the other exceptional players on the s4r server, these guys didn’t boast about their scores, they just played the game and played it very well. My scores rarely came close to them but I always felt like a badass whenever I got in a lucky shot and killed them. I think this is the main reason why I’m such a huge supporter of Missionary. I always give some thought to the average players who will fell like they beat the king of the mountain whenever they get in those lucky shots. It’s just not the same if you know or think the top player in the server is just a cheater. It robs all the excitement and the feeling of accomplishment if you think that great player you killed was nothing but a cheater.

Several months later, I happen to find my way to the MOB server one night. 1st thing I thought of when I saw the player list was wondering if {MOB}Oppression was the same Opp from the s4r server. Well it turns out he was. I think I had been playing on the {MOB} server for less then two weeks when one night Clan Killa asked if I would be interested in joining. Keep in mind this was in the early days of MOHAA, anyone and everyone was trying to start a clan. Even average players like me had been asked dozens of times to join this clan or that clan, 90% of which wouldn’t last 6 months.
So in mid July 2002 ( I wonder how many people can accurately remember when they joined their clan, just goes to show how special MOB is to me ) Clan Killa asked if I would be interested in joining MOB. I never had much interest in joining a clan, in fact at the time I thought the whole idea of clans rather stupid.
Three things made me give MOB serious thought to joining when I had turned everyone else down. One I enjoyed playing with all of them, everybody was friendly and fun. Another reason was I really enjoyed the strong competition of most of the {MOB} members. The final and biggest reason was Clan Killa telling me Oppression had recommended me, to me that was a huge honor, so I said yes. Next came the tryout, Oh my god I was so nervous. It was ten times worse than any test I had taken in real life. Luckily, I played better than normal during my tryout or things may have been completely different.
I’m sure some of the MOB members who left saw themselves as the reason for the existence MOB.
For me I think it’s different,
When I think of MOB, I think of all the crazy shit Clan Killa use to say and come up with. It always amazed me how someone who was so computer illiterate could play so good. I think of Raven who wasn’t much of a player but was always so excited for
us during our matches. Here was a person who was so into MOB he would constantly refresh the gamespy window to check the scores during matches. The kind of person who’s enthusiasm tended to rub off and you always felt a little better after talking to him.
Rican who was the 1st person in MOB that I developed a sense of friendship with.
F_K who without his early support {MOB} would probably never of existed, plus who I think never got the recognition he deserved for all of the time and effort he put in his server. Nixon who I think I shared the most in common with as far as overall attitude. Little old man who was without a doubt one of the nicest guys in {MOB}. Here is a soon to be retired teamster who I constantly worried about the same way I would a little brother. I was always concerned he would leave because he didn’t feel like he fit in with the younger MOB players. Casino Killa who has always existed in the background, like a ghost of MOB past but one of the few MOB members I can think of who has never caused a single problem or had a bad word to say about anyone.

The question of why the split has been asked about a dozen times. I think like most problems it was caused by little stuff left unresolved. I see myself as partly to blame.
There has been a running joke for the last year and a half referring to me as the consigliere ( meaning advisor ). I’ve always been kind of the answer man at MOB. For a while I saw some of these little issues builing up but out of plain apathy did nothing about it.

For once Ashe got something right.
Now instead of one great clan we have two lesser ones. What continues to surprise me is people thought this was for the best. There have been times when I felt like walking away form {MOB} for one reason or another. I just couldn’t bring myself to do it, it just didn’t feel right to give up on something you put so much time and effort into. I only wish others would of seen it the same way.

Anyway I hope you enjoyed this short story which will now be reffered to as
"Druid, a day in the life of MOB and Mohaa"
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post 05/23/04 7:50am
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i remember when i first started to play mohaa, i would bounce around from server to server till i found mob server#2. it was druid's server which ran custom maps. i would play that server as long as i could, until my hands would fall asleep. i didnt find any server that was as good as mob's servers, which was always full and hard to get into. mob#2 was the best server till spearhead came out and fucked it all up. they changed the #2 server to be a spearhead server. i also played on it then but it wasnt the same. i will still come into mob's servers from time to time now but nothing will be the same as back then with the custom maps they use to run. i still have the most respect for the mob members and also for the ones that have left. i remeber asking druid for help when i first got my servers, if it wasnt for him i wouldnt of even known what to do. he helped me out alot when i first started the squad killers a couple of years ago. i wish both clans the best of luck. mob has done alot of good stuff for the mohaa game and i hope they keep it up.

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The more I played on the server, the better I got at the game, and the more I got to know some of these arrogant pricks (Cypher never did warm up to me though.)


Heh, don't take it personally Ashe, I am an arrogant prick with everybody, and I don't warm up to anybody. I am the Barry Bonds of MOHAA.

You have my respect, isn't that enough?

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post 05/23/04 11:26am
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Originally posted by my bitch {MOB}Druid
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For once Ashe got something right.


You cut me deep, real deep Druid.

Originally posted by {MOB}Cypher
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You have my respect, isn't that enough?


I would really like your man love too. Oh yeah.....and your car.


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QUOTE (Druid @ May 23 2004, 06:01 AM)
My scores rarely came close to them but I always felt like a badass whenever I got in a lucky shot and killed them. I think this is the main reason why I’m such a huge supporter of Missionary. I always give some thought to the average players who will fell like they beat the king of the mountain whenever they get in those lucky shots. It’s just not the same if you know or think the top player in the server is just a cheater. It robs all the excitement and the feeling of accomplishment if you think that great player you killed was nothing but a cheater.


Druid I commend for your hard work, dedication, and thought for us guys who cant play like oppressoin and others. For the 10 months that I have played in {MOB} servers and the 8 months I have been active in forums you guys have been great to play with/against and a pleasure to harass in forums. Although I have only played moh for a little over a year now I easily recognize the lack of support given by EA and the incredible effort you guys have put into this game, so bravo and carry on. smile.gif


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post 05/23/04 3:25pm
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i think for alot of guys who are not members or regs (meaning me) withhold their feelings due to flaming etc...regardless...its a sad day...i dont think of age with anyone over the computer when you speak to people on the computer it should be their personality that matters not what their age is...i could tell you i was 35 or 65 and be 15...age on here is nothing but a number...
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I agree...and this is but a game (which i cant seem to get into my thick skull)...i am too competative...we all need to remember that this IS NOT our lives guys...we all love this game i agree...but it is a game...lets not get too hurt over a break up of one of the greatest clans in the game...it is a game..FLAME


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but it is a game...lets not get too hurt over a break up of one of the greatest clans in the game...it is a game


Agreed it is a game. But football is just a game and 70,000 people flock to stadiums every Sunday and yell their lungs out for their team. Nascar is just a game, but people drive for hundreds of miles and fill tracks that seat 200,000 people. Why? Passion, man, passion.

Mohaa is more then "just a game" for alot of people. It is their pasttime and their hobby. For some of us, we use to be competitive and active in sports when we were younger. We have the firm understanding of what it means to be on a team and be competitive in our sport. Now we are older and fatter and lazier and cant do the things we use to do. So we play Mohaa. But we still have the same understanding of team and the same desire to win. Most clans are filled with people that play a game til they get bored with it then move to another clan in another game. Their clan then folds up within 6 months of its creation. The great clans move from game to game together. They stick together as a team. This is what I was referring to in the break up of Mob. Mob was one of those clans that would stick together from game to game....at least I thought they would.

It appears to me the younger generation has no understanding of these things which I speak. It is all about "ME". They want to be with whoever is winning now. That is why my clan does not recruit people under the age of 18.


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