terrorism in russia? Options

[futureman]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/24...rash/index.html

[realdeal]

This should be interesting to see what develops.

[futureman]

fallen off the radar?

[realdeal]

It's confirmed. It was terrorism.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130302,00.html

[Silver]

intresting, havent they been dealing with the terrorists for awhile? funny, their airlines didnt even blink at this.

[futureman]

this was no movie theatre.
this one had a better ending.
http://www.straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/lates...,270714,00.html?

[Silver]

[futureman]

the russian school massacre was the worst terror event i have seen since 911.
156 children dead. over 350 total.

terrorists linked to al Qaeda.

if you havnt seen the pics, i would advise to only if you have a strong stomache.
they arent pretty.
there are too many children dead.



this is the link to the coverage, not the pictures.
the drudge report has the pics.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/04...hool/index.html

drudge pics... http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040903/D84SDC580.html

This post has been edited by futureman: 09/04/04 7:49pm

[eulogy]

is the US gettin involved with this, since it is terrorism? are we gonna help out russia at all or did we already? i gotta start readin the paper more often

[Silver]

russia was selling arms to iraq so i doubt that, but i may stand corrected.
but i want to say this, heed my words, in the near future u will see these scum doing the homicide bombings on our busses and doing this kinda stuff like taking over schools in the near future. i pray that the FBI and CIA can stop all the acts before they happen. but i fear the worst.
i dont mean to word this like i know this for a fact but there are crazy people out there and even if it is not a terrorist like plo or what not, there are enough copy cats out there that am shure want to be in the news.
next time u get on a bus or go to school look around and become aware of your suroundings. how about work? u guy work in buildings. think they wouldnt like to take out a building full of people.
scarry.
i really believe we need more protection then what we have working right now. i hope to apply for my pistol permit soon. (not to kill terrorists or anything but you never know, i never use to carry a knife and now i could not imagine living with out it. i use it all the time and it saved my ass once from getting mugged. scared the shit out of the guy trying to mug me....

[eulogy]

dam d sounds rough sorry to hear that

[futureman]

d,
i dont think that our government has the ability to protect us from every act of terror that some crazy copy cat murderer may commit. there is just too many opportunities for such actions. if you need to buy a gun and carry it to protect yourself, then do so or move to an area that you feel safe to live. i would say, however, that i bet with the number of people who carry or own handguns, that the percentage of people whose handgun has caused more bad than good is 500 times the number of those who have used their personal handgun to protect themselves in a situation that calls for a firearm. in other words, having a handgun opens up a whole new set of circumstances in your life that has more chances in causing negative impacts on your life than good, so be careful.

the thing our government is trying to do is stop the leaders of the large terrorist organizations from gaining ground. stopping their campaigns of recruiting. wiping out their camps and thier strong holds.

eventually, with the help of the whole world and not just the US and some other coutries throwing in some token help, the terrorist clans will weaken and not be as effective. yes, they will continue to act out these sickening acts of violence on seemingly innocent people, but in the long run, the terrorist will run out of options and their tendencies will be curbed.

eventually, i would hope, the people being taken advantage of in the terrorist recruiting cells will realize that it isnt a religious journey they are partaking in, but an act of suicide that they have been conned into commiting for some loon. they will eventually stop the unnecessary death when they realize that it is getting them nowhere. but for now, they dont see the truth.

this is why our government works to find and take down these terrorists that are located in iraq and pakistan and etc., and now, around and in russia. this is why we as US citizens need to stand behind the decision of our government to fight this "harder than vietnam" war even in the face of the worlds constant bashing. it is the right thing to do. someone must stop these morons from killing people.

if we, as a country, allow the fight to end...by voting it out....the future of safety in America doesnt look bright. soon, they will be here at a lot larger rate than the 9-11 event. they will be blowing up busses and taking over schools. when you are talking and thinking of what the war on terrorism means to you, remember that these animals are making plans to kill you, your mom, your brother, and whoever. they want us dead. they want to watch you die a painful, firey death. and i am not just talking about us. those animals want everyone who isnt like them to perish in the same way.

without the US fighting the fight, which starts in Iraq and blossoms outwards, the world is in serious jeopardy.

the good thing is, the rest of the world is catching on with the acts like the one we just witnessed in russia. the terrorist may have had the advantage because we, the US, were the only ones taking the fucks seriously, but now, they have made the mistake of increasing their enemies ten fold. soon, the whole world will fight the fight. we need to stand behind our governments decision to fight this fight. dont let this election blur the vision.



This post has been edited by futureman: 09/05/04 8:58am

[Silver]

well thats what i was getting at. the gov. cannot stop allot really, they are only aware of the people and ideas that are promoted. the ones that are really kept secret are the ones i worry about. if these people could see that their death were unnecessary even as a losing factor they would not be in this situation. the more they are oppressed and driven back the more insane and dramatic the fight they will bring to their oppressors. i just think that there is nothing that can be done with them. they are like a dog that has been trained to kill, what has been done is irreversible and they need to be put down. new teachings, education and eliminating the older socialization would bring about change. kill the old new thoughts have to develop. but in the long run and i hate to sound biased and what not, but it seems the total of it all at this point in the game is the muslims are the groups doing the damage. anyone who disagrees pick up, well download the songs dont give this piece of shit ur money, the rapper is MC Ren, hates the white devil and such. yeah he is muslim. i have a general distrust for them, and i feel the koran is, and i know like the bible left open for interpretation, but it seems to flow to the violent and evil side heavy.

i am going to break from the topic for a minute, and say i agree future man, guns bring about a bad situation, and the only thing i really need to defend my self with is my 2 hands. but i am l look at it more as a tool. most people that are killed (owners of hand guns are with their own.) i read that someplace. and most guns used in crimes are stolen and or purchased on the black market. the reason i would buy one is i live in the projects, we have silent pits and crazy shit like that. you cannot fight off a dog. and i worry about my family. i own a few guns in my home and have showed everyone in the house how to use them. and what they can do. my kids know they are no toy and no joke. they treat they with respect, and i hope they will always see it that way. i am not one of those guys that would try and do something rash like stop a bank robbery, u see them idiots, thinking they are john wayne, fools. but if someone tries to snatch my kid damn right i would try and protect them, most likely i will find them dead anyways or mentally fucked up.
under a circumstance like that or like i said a dog, but i really doubt i would carry it anyways. i like to kill cans. and clays. but thats me, like i said i see it as a tool, hell i can even do some roofing who needs a hammer!

This post has been edited by D. Silver: 09/05/04 10:53am

[Blakjak]

A school is an incredibly easy place to kill lots of people. We had a bomb threat last year at our school so they herd us all into the stadium right next door. Anyone with any sort of brains could just place the explosive in the stadium, call in the threat, and boom.

[Silver]

scary isnt it. but america will wake up to this sooner or later, we have the same thoughts, it didnt happen here.