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post 07/04/05 6:21pm
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Man I just finished watching Saving Private Ryan. First time I watched it since I started playing MOHAA. Was MOHAA based on that movie? I know it was the same war and all but the background of the battle scenes are eeriely similar to the MOHAA single player game. Coincidence?

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post 07/04/05 6:34pm
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Same thing with Enemy at the Gates and COD Single Player.


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post 07/04/05 7:38pm
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Well, the movies and the games are based on actual battles and what not. I think it is more than just a coincidence that they are similiar, but I think mostly it's just that if you are making a movie about ww2 and a game about ww2 you are just going to have a lot of similarities in background story.


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post 07/05/05 9:04am
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like i said onvent last night factor most of the level designers worked with the special FX and architects from saving private ryan, same thing with MOH: Frontline for ps2. thats why they look so similar.


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post 07/05/05 7:22pm
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I read the developers of MOH actually took the game to Spielberg for his comments. He liked it.
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On the D-Day level, it's no coincidence that the captain sounds like Tom Hanks and even adopts lines straight from the movie.

Saucy is right about COD and Enemy at the Gates. BTW, if you liked Enemy at the Gates (I didn't), a much better and cooler account is War of the Rats, a novel by Dave Robbins. Lots of sniper duels and techniques layed out, and the shitty love story isn't so cornball (although it really did exist).

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The Hitler, uh, excuse me, History Channel did a great documentary piece on the Russian sniper duels. The end of Enemy at the Gates is actually lamer than the actual outcome. The Russian (Zeitsev?) ended up shooting the German through his own scope. He saw the flash of glass, aimed for it and BAM! shot him right through his own scope. Now that is friggan impressive.


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 ...ended up shooting the German through his own scope.  He saw the flash of glass, aimed for it and BAM! shot him right through his own scope.  Now that is friggan impressive.
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Carlos Hathcock did the same thing to a NVA sniper that was hunting him for 2 months.. if you havent heard of Carlos he was one of the best snipers in Vietnam (with a USMC record of 93 confirmed kills, but as he says "the numbers don't matter.. just the fact that by killing one i save thousands.")... one of his exploits was tavelling by helicopter into N. Vietnam, just above the DMZ, and by foot walking half way up to Hanoi and assassinating a N. Vietnamese general, needless to say, no one even knew he was there nor where the shot came from. If you don't know much about Carlos i suggest picking up the novels Marine Sniper and Silent Warrior by Charles Henderson. Great reads and were very interesting.

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post 07/06/05 1:03pm
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The Russian (Zeitsev?) ended up shooting the German through his own scope. He saw the flash of glass, aimed for it and BAM! shot him right through his own scope. Now that is friggan impressive.


Maybe they didn't put it in because Saving Private Ryan used that scene and they didn't want to duplicate.

This is from Internet Movie Database (imdb.com)--adding on to what ghost said
The idea of a sniper putting a bullet through another sniper's scope came from the true story of a Marine sniper in Vietnam called Carlos Hathcock, who killed a Vietcong sniper who was stalking him by putting a bullet through the sniper's scope.

Intersting stuff


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post 07/06/05 2:55pm
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White feather was definatly the man,

He shot a female vietnamese torturer after observing her torturing GIs over there. Hes the one they say alot of the scope shots are based off of.

The one you speak about, he said that he seen his scope glint and shot, the funny thing is the sniper has a bead on him as well


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all in the reaction time.. the VC slants arent very good snipers apparently biggrin.gif


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while were on the topic... i suggest picking up Goodnight Saigon by Charles Henderson aswell

great book about the Marines last days in Vietnam and the politics following the end of the war.


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post 07/06/05 6:18pm
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i love war stories... i have been buying the WWII library
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post 07/07/05 4:38pm
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the origional Game, Medal Of Honor, was like produced by speilburg, when he went thru his ww2 phase.
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post 07/07/05 10:43pm
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SPR is my favorite movie ever. And as Ghost said, we told you last night that the game was based on it. biggrin.gif


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