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post 04/13/06 10:33am
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So I joined (volunteered) the Northern Virginia Minutemen this week. This should be interesting. Basically it sounds like my primary function will be to camp out 7-11s and work sites to take pictures of companies and their trucks that hire illegals immigrants. After verifying, the records are then sent into the IRS. My secondary position will be graphics and web stuff. Sounds promising. Just figured I'd try to action something to make a difference for my beliefs instead of just blowing hot air in these forums. biggrin.gif

Here's the LINK to their main site... not the prettiest site, but it gets the message across.


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Stickman
post 04/14/06 3:37pm
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Every illegal worker has a boss that hired them illegally. Why do I hear so much bitching about people sneaking into the US to work, and no bitching about the people who hire them? What's the penalty for hiring illegals? (I'm serious... I don't know.) Is there one, or just the spin-off tax avoidance stuff?

As long as people can provide a better life for their families by sneaking into the US to work, they will do so.

As long as people can easily hire illegal workers to do dirty jobs at wages below what they can hire legal workers for, they will do so.

Who is morally worse; the man who breaks immigration laws because it's what he has to do to provide for his family, or the guy who hires that man illegally to save a buck or two?

Which would be easier, practically speaking: Physically preventing a mexican man from entering the US so that he can better provide for his family, or establishing a system of fines and enforcement so that the guy hiring illegals realizes they're actually MORE expensive than hiring legal workers?

The dirty truth is, many places in the US have economies that are addicted to cheap illegal labor. Were it to disappear, the economy would take a huge hit. The cost of labor would skyrocket, and the price of EVERYTHING go up accordingly.


People love to complain about illegal aliens ruining society, but are they willing to support a law that would fine them $1,000 for hiring Pablo to cut their lawn for $10 when Peter wants $40 to do the same job? I suspect not.

As for paying taxes... i suspect there's not an illegal worker in the US today that wouldn't jump at the chance to start paying taxes if it meant they could work legally. That argument is a red herring.

As for the growing use of spanish... businesses will start using spanish when it makes good business sense to do so. That's called free enterprise. Government at all levels will start to use spanish when they believe it will gain them votes. Thats called democracy. Which of these institutions do you have a problem with?


This post has been edited by Stickman: 04/14/06 3:39pm


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