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post 09/05/06 4:56pm
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This is to publicly denounce the banning of my son -- MormonMarine -- by the MOB council. I am saddened by the harsh punishment handed down by the council on such a petty thing as using the "Gay" word in a tag. A removal from the Regs -- yes, but a ban from all servers??? I would be interested to hear from people who have played with MormonMarine and get their thoughts.

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Please do not remove this post and bury it in the MOB section!!

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post 09/06/06 11:11am
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I to think a temporary ban is needed. For at least 4 weeks though, c'mon, its his second ban. Also, Im sure these things that he is doing probably will not accur again, but it will be something new. He needs to be on pins and needles apon a return.

Regs should not have been upset with any decision made by MOB. Dont know for sure, but from what I hear, the main difference between MOB and Regs is that MOB members pay for the servers and Regs dont. If that is indeed the case, MOB has the right to conduct themselfes and clan any way they seem fit. Be glad they even allow their tags to go out to people for free membership. You need to act as if you were a MOB member when wearing Regs tags.

If I were in MOB and I had all these Regs leaving and starting shit because of this issue, I would be very pissed and want all of the people banned. I like most of you guys and its hard to say, but really man. Its like your shitting where you eat. You like to play on MOB servers and liked to be Regs, but because a few members got a hair up their ass and wanted to pull away, you are following them? Where is your loyalty to the MOB?


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post 09/06/06 4:20pm
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QUOTE(Nothing @ 09/06/06 1:11pm) *
I to think a temporary ban is needed. For at least 4 weeks though, c'mon, its his second ban. Also, Im sure these things that he is doing probably will not accur again, but it will be something new. He needs to be on pins and needles apon a return.

Regs should not have been upset with any decision made by MOB. Dont know for sure, but from what I hear, the main difference between MOB and Regs is that MOB members pay for the servers and Regs dont. If that is indeed the case, MOB has the right to conduct themselfes and clan any way they seem fit. Be glad they even allow their tags to go out to people for free membership. You need to act as if you were a MOB member when wearing Regs tags.

If I were in MOB and I had all these Regs leaving and starting shit because of this issue, I would be very pissed and want all of the people banned. I like most of you guys and its hard to say, but really man. Its like your shitting where you eat. You like to play on MOB servers and liked to be Regs, but because a few members got a hair up their ass and wanted to pull away, you are following them? Where is your loyalty to the MOB?


What r u talking about? Some MOB guys went, and some Regs guys went. I don't know what is going on, but a combination of the two went, and yet you find a reason to single out the Regs who move? I don't follow the logic.

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post 09/06/06 4:55pm
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*** sigh ***

This thread serves as a perfect example for you, MormonTrooper, of what I was speaking of when I talked about fatigue setting in. Issues brought before the MOB council would often experience just this kind of combativeness.

Hey, miked, I was a journalism major in college too. My first job was with the Boston Globe and then I moved to the Rocky Mountain News in Denver before coming back east. One thing they taught me in j-school was to report accurately. Both you and MoD have widely missed on the history of the MM saga. As Druid so carefully pointed out, this was discussed in a thread in the open public forum for all to see and all to comment on. Once the discussion stretched to fill FOUR pages, it was pulled into the MOB section and a vote was made. I wasn't part of that decision to move the thread, but I'm sure some members felt we were airing a bit too much of our dirty laundry, so to speak.

The vote that was eventually made by MOB members was based in large part on the public discussion that had taken place in the open public forum.

REGS DO MATTER!! Look who we have who used to be Regs! Have you not been reading Bargod's impassioned posts about his history as one of the first Regs? There is a firm commitment to the Regs community here. Unfortunately, there are the rare topics that need to be discussed privately so we can gauge the mood of the full {MOB} members.

If you don't like being a Reg and being part of that community, you are encouraged to inquire about membership in full {MOB}. You also have many avenues for discussing issues that concern you. And trust me, everyone listens. We all have the success of these servers and this clan at heart. We'd be totally fool-hearty if we were to ignore such an important and vital part of the clan.

Everyone acts as if this decision was "life or death" for MormonMarine. Take a deep breath and relax. This may come as a shock to many, but I've been a supporter of both MM and MT since they first started battling here. I play alongside my best mate, Cross of Iron, virtually every night and yet I NEVER witnessed MM doing any of the things that drove people batty. When Cross wasn't playing one day, I saw one minor event that required a warning be sent to both MM and MT. I felt that warning was justified, not because I wanted them banned, but because I wanted them to be aware that their actions were against server policy and the could be banned - something I DIDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN!!

The bottom line here, folks, is that MM has been banned, but I'm sure if he wanted to, he could appeal for a lifting of that ban in the future. What's the big deal with that? All of us respect both MM and MT as top-notch players. When MM behaves himself, his playing skills are EXACTLY what MOB wants on their servers. We have a reputation now as having some of the best competition found on UO BA servers each and every night. If anything, we want that reputation to grow, not diminish.

So, PLEASE, lets get beyond the drama!! fartnew2.gif

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{MORMONTROOPER}   Banning of MormonMarine?   09/05/06 4:56pm
Silver   big deal he said someone was gay... trooper u got...   09/05/06 5:03pm
Bargod   big deal he said someone was gay... trooper u go...   09/05/06 5:31pm
miked   big deal he said someone was gay... trooper u g...   09/05/06 6:18pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   [quote name='Bargod' post='123131' date='09/05/06...   09/06/06 3:50pm
Slimshady   I do not know the whole story but i'm prety su...   09/05/06 5:11pm
Ouch   I have never had A problem with marine. But I real...   09/05/06 5:20pm
Bargod   I believe the example used was that if someone els...   09/05/06 5:21pm
Silver   I believe the example used was that if someone el...   09/05/06 5:36pm
Lord Lipton   this shit is blown out of proportion and i'm p...   09/05/06 5:35pm
Nothing   Seeing as Trooper(the Father) can still play, and ...   09/05/06 5:43pm
Bargod   Silver, you may also recall that after the stat pa...   09/05/06 5:50pm
Silver   Silver, you may also recall that after the stat p...   09/05/06 6:32pm
Big P   Silver, you may also recall that after the stat p...   09/05/06 6:05pm
Bargod   The only part of the link I was referencing was wh...   09/05/06 6:23pm
|$aucy|   Bargod should not have to defend this decision to ...   09/05/06 6:33pm
miked   Bargod should not have to defend this decision to...   09/05/06 6:57pm
joker   Bargod should not have to defend this decision to...   09/06/06 5:53am
Silver   I dont really care what you guys do, i dont want t...   09/05/06 6:37pm
Genocide Junkie   I dont really care what you guys do, i dont want ...   09/07/06 3:48pm
|$aucy|   [quote name='Silver' post='123152' date='09/05/06...   09/07/06 4:07pm
UNDEAD 1   this kid has had at least 6 warnings-infact i beli...   09/05/06 6:40pm
Silver   wow Miked?   09/05/06 7:01pm
HammaTime   To Miked and those of you who don't understand...   09/05/06 7:58pm
Undertow   To Miked and those of you who don't understan...   09/05/06 8:11pm
miked   To Miked and those of you who don't understan...   09/05/06 8:38pm
Druid   This is to publicly denounce the banning of my so...   09/05/06 8:17pm
Druid   Miked Thanks for making my underlying point so we...   09/05/06 8:57pm
miked   Miked Thanks for making my underlying point so w...   09/05/06 9:20pm
{MORMONTROOPER}   If you read all of the postings on this subject --...   09/05/06 9:40pm
majorhavoc   [*]The "Gay" issue was not directed at I...   09/07/06 2:39pm
Bargod   Mormon Trooper, I appologize if I got it wrong. B...   09/05/06 10:56pm
Silver   Hero? LMAO... the things i could say, but I dont...   09/06/06 5:38am
Druid   Hero? LMAO... the things i could say, but I don...   09/06/06 7:32am
<Dolphin>*Girl*   Funny thing is- how this thread was about banning ...   09/06/06 7:36am
Druid   give me a break   09/06/06 7:48am
T/A6Pak   To All: I have been sitting back reading this thr...   09/06/06 8:14am
<Dolphin>*Girl*   To Silver and DG- I have always thought of you b...   09/06/06 8:20am
Genocide Junkie   Please don't take this the wrong way.... why a...   09/06/06 8:53am
<Dolphin>*Girl*   Please don't take this the wrong way.... why ...   09/06/06 8:58am
T/A6Pak   Please don't take this the wrong way.... why...   09/06/06 9:12am
<Dolphin>*Girl*   [quote name='<Dolphin>*Girl*' post='123249'...   09/06/06 9:15am
Genocide Junkie   Please don't take this the wrong way.... why...   09/06/06 9:15am
Nothing   Please don't take this the wrong way.... why ...   09/06/06 8:58am
pezking   Yeah, that's pretty fucked up. I've been ...   09/06/06 9:18am
<Dolphin>*Girl*   Yeah, that's pretty fucked up. I've been...   09/06/06 9:23am
Genocide Junkie   As I said it takes two to argue.... I've said ...   09/06/06 9:26am
pezking   Don't go and insult an entire group of people ...   09/06/06 9:26am
<Dolphin>*Girl*   Don't go and insult an entire group of people...   09/06/06 9:34am
Genocide Junkie   My intent was not to insult non members or even DG...   09/06/06 9:35am
pezking   I would say first ban = 2 weeks. Probation after ...   09/06/06 9:42am
flatliner   Ban his guid for a bit. let him play on his dads....   09/06/06 10:55am
Nothing   I to think a temporary ban is needed. For at leas...   09/06/06 11:11am
UNDEAD 1   I to think a temporary ban is needed. For at leas...   09/06/06 11:37am
miked   If I were in MOB and I had all these Regs leavi...   09/06/06 12:12pm
<Dolphin>*Girl*   I to think a temporary ban is needed. For at lea...   09/06/06 12:26pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   I to think a temporary ban is needed. For at leas...   09/06/06 4:20pm
HammaTime   *** sigh *** This thread serves as a perfect exam...   09/06/06 4:55pm
Genocide Junkie   I tend to try to mediate things when ppl get upset...   09/06/06 11:21am
Bargod   Well, this is pretty much what happened to any kin...   09/06/06 11:47am
<Dolphin>*Girl*   Well, this is pretty much what happened to any ki...   09/06/06 12:30pm
Genocide Junkie   Did I tell you I was thinking about buying a boat?   09/06/06 12:28pm
Nothing   Hey Mike, Let me get this right. Your basically ...   09/06/06 12:30pm
Bargod   This is totally off topic, but where did your frie...   09/06/06 12:31pm
miked   This is totally off topic, but where did your fri...   09/06/06 1:13pm
Nothing   [quote name='Nothing' post='123284' date='09/06/0...   09/06/06 12:40pm
Genocide Junkie   Any chance of everyone dropping this? It's get...   09/06/06 12:44pm
Nothing   I agree, I dont want to make enemies from old fri...   09/06/06 12:48pm
Silver   Drama, drama, drama... wtf is everyone panties in...   09/06/06 1:04pm
Druid   Miked According to this post, it is irrelevant wh...   09/06/06 1:08pm
Genocide Junkie   I've been treated very well as a [Reg] althoug...   09/06/06 1:30pm
Cpt.Canuck   I can't believe I read this entire thread... i...   09/06/06 2:11pm
Bargod   I really don't understand where you guys got t...   09/06/06 4:34pm
Hellfighter   I liked MM as a spunky kid, but how many chances c...   09/06/06 8:11pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   Ok, I should have read everything before I comment...   09/06/06 4:55pm
UNDEAD 1   I'm amazed at this reaction from some of the r...   09/06/06 6:13pm
Silver   I will... Thanks UNDEAD1 MOD... MOB has had hell....   09/06/06 6:25pm
HarryCaray   I can sum up this topic in the follwing: :::- :g...   09/06/06 7:01pm
Rommel   I have no problem with MormonMarine, but he is ban...   09/07/06 3:12am
Bargod   I have no problem with MormonMarine, but he is ba...   09/07/06 3:52am
Rommel   I have no problem with MormonMarine, but he is ba...   09/07/06 4:15am
UNDEAD 1   lol   09/07/06 4:29am
Oh You   Why, in all this, did the person who was so insult...   09/07/06 3:23pm
Cpt. Snot Rocket   Why, in all this, did the person who was so insul...   09/07/06 3:36pm
majorhavoc   Becuase, as I said in the original thread, IP d...   09/07/06 3:39pm
Lord Lipton   ..................wowwwwwwwww........................   09/07/06 4:01pm
Lord Lipton   SNAP!   09/07/06 4:32pm
Genocide Junkie   Ouch! Looks like that's gonna hurt!...   09/07/06 4:57pm
{MORMONTROOPER}   Since the pot is already boiling.... I might as w...   09/07/06 5:43pm
majorhavoc   The gay issue has no relevance -- other than Major...   09/07/06 9:49pm
|$aucy|   Since the pot is already boiling.... I might as ...   09/07/06 5:54pm
UNDEAD 1   BANNED! :) end this thread! let them go .   09/07/06 6:55pm
realdeal   Awesome thread. Thanks for the read! http://...   09/07/06 7:19pm
flatliner   Is this still going on? My god let it go!...   09/08/06 8:12am
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