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THIS IS ALARMING!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060915/sc_nm/...ent_arctic_dc_1



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post 09/22/06 1:13pm
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I don't have any problem with conservationist or environmentalist in general, to me it's only common sense to not waste our limited resources or not try to limit unnecessary pollution.
I think that's why the whole global warming issue is such a pet peeve as it take focus off more important subjects.
This whole chicken little hysteria revolving around "global warming" to me is a farce.
Even the best projections of the alarmist puts the man-made portion of CO2 around 0.2%. This is less than their percentage of error the tempretures cited in their own predictions of global warming.
So if EVERY man-made source of C02 was stopped tomorrow, it would have less than 0.2% impact on the problem.

People need to keep this in perspective. The global warming theory ( that's what it is a theory ), is mostly based on mathematical models where they can't even backup many of their assumptions used in the model.
Even the UN IPCC Panel who is the biggest chicken hawk right now. List 12 causes of global warming, then later admits they have little scientific understanding of 6 of the 12 factors and only marginal understanding of another 4.
So we are suppose to go by their predictions when they admit, at best only understand 1/4 of the reason?
Don't forget right up to the mid 70's the overwhelming belief was we were heading into another mini ice-age.


As for the universe expanding that is 100% fact as proven by red shift.
This BTW is who the hubble telescope is named for.
The confusion comes from a difference of perspective.
GENERALLY speaking everything in the universe is moving a way from each other.
This is the basis for the big bang theory. It doesn't mean it's the only force acting on it.
The Milky Way And Andromeda galaxies are both Generally moving away from everything else but at the same time are on a collision course to take place in 3 billion years.
All a matter of perspective.
Same as you're sitting still as you read this but at the same time you are moving in at least 5 different vectors.
Spinning around on the earth axis
Rotating around the sun
The solar system is spinning inside the milky way galaxy
Our section of the milkway galaxy is spinning on an axis to it's center
While the whole time the galaxy is flying towards a collision with Andromeda in 3 billion years.


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post 09/22/06 1:18pm
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QUOTE(Druid @ 09/22/06 1:13pm) *
I don't have any problem with conservationist or environmentalist in general, to me it's only common sense to not waste our limited resources or not try to limit unnecessary pollution.
I think that's why the whole global warming issue is such a pet peeve as it take focus off more important subjects.
This whole chicken little hysteria revolving around "global warming" to me is a farce.
Even the best projections of the alarmist puts the man-made portion of CO2 around 0.2%. This is less than their percentage of error the tempretures cited in their own predictions of global warming.
So if EVERY man-made source of C02 was stopped tomorrow, it would have less than 0.2% impact on the problem.

People need to keep this in perspective. The global warming theory ( that's what it is a theory ), is mostly based on mathematical models where they can't even backup many of their assumptions used in the model.
Even the UN IPCC Panel who is the biggest chicken hawk right now. List 12 causes of global warming, then later admits they have little scientific understanding of 6 of the 12 factors and only marginal understanding of another 4.
So we are suppose to go by their predictions when they admit, at best only understand 1/4 of the reason?
Don't forget right up to the mid 70's the overwhelming belief was we were heading into another mini ice-age.


As for the universe expanding that is 100% fact as proven by red shift.
This BTW is who the hubble telescope is named for.
The confusion comes from a difference of perspective.
GENERALLY speaking everything in the universe is moving a way from each other.
This is the basis for the big bang theory. It doesn't mean it's the only force acting on it.
The Milky Way And Andromeda galaxies are both Generally moving away from everything else but at the same time are on a collision course to take place in 3 billion years.
All a matter of perspective.
Same as you're sitting still as you read this but at the same time you are moving in at least 5 different vectors.
Spinning around on the earth axis
Rotating around the sun
The solar system is spinning inside the milky way galaxy
Our section of the milkway galaxy is spinning on an axis to it's center
While the whole time the galaxy is flying towards a collision with Andromeda in 3 billion years.


And I'm still trying to figure out how they get cheese in a can..... this is too much for my feeble little mind...



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UNDEAD 1   POLAR CAPS MELTING   09/16/06 6:19pm
HarryCaray   Did you know, when Ice melts in your cup the water...   09/17/06 6:25pm
SKTemplarRD   Did you know, when Ice melts in your cup the wate...   09/17/06 10:16pm
Hellfighter   It's scary....'our' governments have k...   09/19/06 11:52am
HammaTime   The most alarming news just came out this summer w...   09/19/06 1:17pm
no_help   Anyone see that Gore Documentary? Thinking about ...   09/19/06 1:34pm
Meowman   Anyone see that Gore Documentary? Thinking about ...   09/19/06 5:17pm
Genocide Junkie   I think I'll get facts from someone other than...   09/19/06 9:03pm
HammaTime   I think I'll get facts from someone other tha...   09/19/06 10:22pm
Druid   Not a lot different from what he actually said ...   09/19/06 10:25pm
HammaTime   Not a lot different from what he actually said ...   09/20/06 6:24am
Bargod   To branch into thermal dynamics, which I know abso...   09/19/06 11:35pm
flatliner   After a nice long day, I am convinced that my swa...   09/20/06 7:29am
Druid   I don't agree at all. There has been just as m...   09/20/06 8:01am
Genocide Junkie   If you look back say 10 yrs maybe a few more these...   09/20/06 8:53am
CommanderChoth   Yay! A debate! Global warming, now tha...   09/20/06 9:55am
UNDEAD 1   im no advocate of gore and completely aware of the...   09/20/06 10:09am
Druid   My point on peer review stands true as most ( not ...   09/20/06 10:40am
Bargod   My point on peer review stands true as most ( not...   09/22/06 2:32am
Genocide Junkie   I guess I'm apathetic regarding all of this be...   09/20/06 10:45am
UNDEAD 1   will man destroy itself by war or slowly? http://...   09/20/06 11:12am
UNDEAD 1   i also found it ironic that on history channel (mo...   09/21/06 5:21am
HarryCaray   Ice was melting thousands of years ago, if it didn...   09/21/06 8:02pm
Meowman   Ice was melting thousands of years ago, if it did...   09/21/06 8:48pm
UNDEAD 1   Ice was melting thousands of years ago, if it did...   09/21/06 9:36pm
UNDEAD 1   theres two scientific sides -ones says were in tro...   09/22/06 5:18am
HammaTime   I get a kick out of non-scientists grappling with ...   09/22/06 8:40am
UNDEAD 1   your right ! the first thing i started reading...   09/22/06 9:16am
Druid   I don't have any problem with conservationist ...   09/22/06 1:13pm
Genocide Junkie   I don't have any problem with conservationist...   09/22/06 1:18pm
Stickman   The fact of the matter is that the US is the only ...   10/07/06 12:38am
Stickman   There has been just as much scientific evidence ag...   10/07/06 2:38am
UNDEAD 1   good to see this post come back! i was talkin ...   10/07/06 4:09am
no_help   Layin pipe! haha... Now thats a living! ...   10/07/06 9:44am
Stickman   Hard to see a way out of this one. It's ...   10/07/06 4:03pm
Genocide Junkie   I just watched a thing on TLC or Discovery where t...   10/07/06 10:14am
CommanderChoth   To futher sticky's post. NOAA (national oceani...   10/07/06 11:19am
UNDEAD 1   WHAT IF HES WRONG! :) theyre goes my sons futu...   10/07/06 12:29pm
T/A6Pak   Vodka on the rocks for everybody....LOL   10/07/06 2:18pm


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