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post 09/22/06 2:17pm
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i had big problems with this particular gentlemen this morning after i took down his G2 very quickly (it was a 1 v 1 at the time..) on barb. he was at my R3 and wouldn't have made it back in time to stop the base from exploding so he killed himself and respawned in time to try and defuse the base (i killed him and prevented it) but i told him its not allowed to go spec or kill yourself to respawn and get new ammo/defend a base. he commenced to say FU! I DON'T F'ING CARE! I WILL DO WHAT I WANT! and i told him how i was a former MOB member, and i know the rules (after he accused me of not knowing the rules...blahblah) and he just kept attacking me. everytime i'd die he'd say shit like "AWHH POOR LIPTON COMPUTER NERD" and stuff.



since he said he told me he didn't care if he was banned from anything, please can someone do the honors?



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thanks in advance







-Lip



P.S. - i think it was around...11 eastern?


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Bargod
post 09/23/06 3:48am
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I used to do the "suicide to respawn near the base" trick for defusing until I got involved with TWL matches where it is illegal to kill yourself for any reason and illegal to team kill when a respawn gets the team member arty or spawns him to defuse a base. If you are going to play on TWL you just need to learn to play all the time by the TWL rules or you find yourself doing something wrong in a match.



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post 09/23/06 11:18am
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QUOTE(Bargod @ 09/23/06 4:48am) *
I used to do the "suicide to respawn near the base" trick for defusing until I got involved with TWL matches where it is illegal to kill yourself for any reason and illegal to team kill when a respawn gets the team member arty or spawns him to defuse a base. If you are going to play on TWL you just need to learn to play all the time by the TWL rules or you find yourself doing something wrong in a match.



Yeah, I think that if you have TWL which can police it, fine. But as I say, I've been playing a year and a half on regular servers, and never knew of it being an issue, or that anyone would disapprove of it. Calling it "lame" is because you've played TWL and they have a rule against it. We allow spawn killing on our servers, MANY don't, they'd call that "lame". What is lame is subjective.

At least I do know now, because I was wishing to get involved in TWL and I might have made that mistake!

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post 09/23/06 3:11pm
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QUOTE(M@ster of Dis@ster @ 09/23/06 12:18pm) *

Calling it "lame" is because you've played TWL and they have a rule against it. We allow spawn killing on our servers, MANY don't, they'd call that "lame".



Big difference between intentional suicide to defuse a bomb & spawn killing. If you have a short memory, I was not the first to call it lame/cheesy. If your memory is even shorter than that, MOD, you'll remember that I was a member of mob for a year, I'm very well aware of the spawnkilling rules. Seems you have alot to say all of a sudden now that you're a part of mob.


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post 09/23/06 5:43pm
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QUOTE(Maj. H8Red @ 09/23/06 4:11pm) *
QUOTE(M@ster of Dis@ster @ 09/23/06 12:18pm) *

Calling it "lame" is because you've played TWL and they have a rule against it. We allow spawn killing on our servers, MANY don't, they'd call that "lame".



Big difference between intentional suicide to defuse a bomb & spawn killing. If you have a short memory, I was not the first to call it lame/cheesy. If your memory is even shorter than that, MOD, you'll remember that I was a member of mob for a year, I'm very well aware of the spawnkilling rules. Seems you have alot to say all of a sudden now that you're a part of mob.


Whatever dude. I missed the fact that your tags were gone, and you left to be honest. I thought I you were still a MOB member, I missed all the changes.

My reply was directed at both the lame/cheesy comments. I'm just saying I've played for a long time, never hid that I did it, even said it on the forum and in vent, and this is the first I've heard of it being something people didn't like. And it continues to be my opinion that it is subjective what tactic is lame/cheesy when it is part of the game, as opposed to a true hack/exploit or switching between game and spec mode. I suppose the rule against it is to add "realism" since people really can't kill themselves and repawn in better location, but neither do soliders respawn in front in a hut again and again while someone with a tank shoots them! Like I say, one person's great strategy is another person lame or cheesy shortcut. Some people think MOB allowing spawn killing is lame. Others "suicide gernade spawning". Some people think using paks across the map is lame. I was just trying to defend myself for using a tactic that I've seen others do and never heard a negative comment about after a long period of gaming.

MoD

p.s. I checked my stats. In 608 games, I've suicided a total of 29 times, most of which would have been unintentional, whether it be a fight, or arty on myself. I'm just saying on the few occasions I did do it, I didn't consider it a lamo shortcut...I thought it was a good sacrifice for the better of the team.

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post 09/23/06 9:23pm
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QUOTE(M@ster of Dis@ster @ 09/23/06 6:43pm) *
p.s. I checked my stats. In 608 games, I've suicided a total of 29 times, most of which would have been unintentional, whether it be a fight, or arty on myself. I'm just saying on the few occasions I did do it, I didn't consider it a lamo shortcut...I thought it was a good sacrifice for the better of the team.


Man, I must be Mister Klutz as I have a ton of suicides. Of course, many of mine are from my dropped satchel or grenade as I've tried to defend a plant. I've never suicided on purpose to get back to a respawn point. However, on these very forums I've seen those who do that be praised as being a "team player."

One of the many reasons we allow spawn killing is because we don't want to have to police those who are doing it. We'd be spending all our time kicking people. It is part of the game. I feel the exact same way as far as suicide to move to respawn point. Who cares!?! Unless you are playing a TWL match where they have strict rules against it, have at it.

And Lipton, as far as trying to police the servers as an ex-MOB[Reg] - well, we see how far that got you! LOL. Maybe BsS stands for Be a Suicide Stopper. Maybe you can hand out some cool badges.

Naw, you don't need no stinkin' badges!
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Lord Lipton   Sir Lacelot of Camelot   09/22/06 2:17pm
flatliner   who is this "lipton" guy.... I dont lik...   09/22/06 8:07pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   i had big problems with this particular gentlemen...   09/22/06 8:34pm
miked   WHAT!!!! Since when are you not ...   09/22/06 11:53pm
Cross of Iron   WHAT!!!! Since when are you not...   09/23/06 5:39pm
Druid   Very chessy tactic   09/22/06 10:08pm
Maj. H8Red   Very chessy tactic Yes VERY lame!!!...   09/23/06 1:57am
Lord Lipton   is there not a rule in cassino where you can't...   09/23/06 12:40am
M@ster of Dis@ster   is there not a rule in cassino where you can...   09/23/06 1:19am
Bargod   I used to do the "suicide to respawn near the...   09/23/06 3:48am
M@ster of Dis@ster   I used to do the "suicide to respawn near th...   09/23/06 11:18am
Maj. H8Red   Calling it "lame" is because you've...   09/23/06 3:11pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   Calling it "lame" is because you'v...   09/23/06 5:43pm
HammaTime   p.s. I checked my stats. In 608 games, I've s...   09/23/06 9:23pm
majorhavoc   I agree it's cheesy, too. While I end up killi...   09/23/06 6:25am
Lord Lipton   why must you attack me hamma? so just because i...   09/23/06 10:48pm
HammaTime   why must you attack me hamma? so just because i...   09/24/06 5:49am
Druid   You can justify it however you want but the simple...   09/24/06 12:01am
Lord Lipton   i don't have any power over people, yes. but d...   09/24/06 9:34am
Maj. H8Red   Sometimes it's just damn hard to be appreciate...   09/24/06 10:15am
Druid   Something I think I should clarify. Even though I ...   09/24/06 1:15pm
NoClassBobBass   Well as a newbie to the forums it’s interesting ...   09/24/06 2:32pm
flatliner   Tactics aside, The dude was acting like an ass. ...   09/24/06 3:12pm
Lord Lipton   and with a game with a lot of people in it, killin...   09/24/06 3:18pm
Cpt.Canuck   Interesting discussion... I'll agree entirely...   09/24/06 4:42pm
Assault trooperPolska   Commit suacide when far away to defuse bunker caus...   09/24/06 5:36pm
flatliner   I think long-distance shelling is FAR more lam...   09/24/06 7:15pm
SKTemplarRD   I think long-distance shelling is FAR more lame an...   09/25/06 4:27pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   I think long-distance shelling is [b]FAR more la...   09/25/06 4:46pm
T/A6Pak   I know my stats probably look like I do it...but I...   09/24/06 9:39pm
Lord Lipton   I know my stats probably look like I do it...but ...   09/25/06 10:20am
Lord Lipton   funny in all my years of playing (probably have pl...   09/25/06 5:53pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   funny in all my years of playing (probably have p...   09/25/06 7:23pm
flatliner   one of the german heavies can hit everything, as w...   09/25/06 8:22pm
Meowman   one of the german heavies can hit everything, as ...   09/25/06 9:09pm
Maj. H8Red   one of the german heavies can hit everything, as...   09/26/06 1:06am
Bargod   spawnkilling with a tank is pretty much the lowes...   09/26/06 2:42am
The-Blind-Norwegian   spawnkilling with a tank is pretty much the lowe...   09/26/06 2:58am
Angus Thermopyle   Ok, so after all this ( I did read all 3 pages) S...   09/26/06 11:28am
Cpt.Canuck   Ok, so after all this ( I did read all 3 pages) ...   09/26/06 5:05pm
Stickman   It always amazes and amuses me when people mistake...   10/16/06 2:23am
Meowman   It always amazes and amuses me when people mistak...   10/16/06 6:58pm
The-Blind-Norwegian   "- hiding until a tank passes and you can amb...   10/16/06 2:37am
Rommel   "- hiding until a tank passes and you can am...   10/16/06 6:41am


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