Truth or Dare, Election Ramifications Options

[Hellfighter]

As you know I'm not pro-Bush on his foreign policies... now that they've got some political clout, will the Dems now ante up and tell us how their influential input will reset the future course in Iraq? I'm thinking not. What are your solutions?

My idea>>> in 1 year US troops should pull out of Baghdad area- then let the Iraqi security forces get a taste for hardcore pulling of their weight. US troops can then deploy along the borders while Iraqi's get school of hard knocks training in large operations by themselves in that area of Iraq. With victories will come confidence. Iraqi citizens will also be getting what most of them hypothesize- US troops out supposedly means a de-escalation of terrorist attacks. As for secterian violence, I don't think US troops can stay in Iraq forever to police that. Sooner or later Iraqis have to sort that out by themselves alone.

[Hellfighter]

Ok dokey folks.... let's show some constructiveness here; to varying degrees most of us agree the dems have avoided putting forth a concrete plan- a politically wise move so that they don't corner themselves but does reveal shallowness. The tune repubs all choral together 'Stay the course' has no meaning to me either since that apparently equates with staying in Iraq until everything is stable- that realistically could be decades -if ever. Secterian divisions there are seeming to be just starting to ferment what with almost 100 secterian torture murders a week in Iraq now. Iraqi citizens are saying time for US troops to go - my Iraqi friends with relatives there feel the same - no, not out of ungratefullness, but as an alternative which could mean hope compared to the current status of horrible attrition for all innocents -US,+ Allied troops, Iraqi police/security forces, and civilians [possibly 650,000 Iraqi killed so far http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6101001442.html].

I entitled this thread 'truth or dare' poking at dem supporters [I'm barely one].
Truth= now that the elections are over-be honest; you have no workable structured plan you all agree on to finish up in Iraq.
Dare= Be bold and at least put forward such a plan.
The election doesn't actually mean Dems are now obligated to put forward such a plan- but it does mean they can seriously influence however Bush chooses to pursue the war from now on. However- with young and old soldiers dying some on 2nd and 3rd tours, hopefully all the leaders cab get together and give soldiers/their families. and the common Iraqi civilian a vision that they have a clue as to how they'd even possibly like to exit the conflict.

I think that begins with repubs stop mimicking Bush's cliche lines 'stay the course', 'democrats act like they're helping terrorists/dems are unpatriotic', and enough with smug contempt that if you don't see it the repub way, you're a simpleton. Dems need to stop farting about and come up with a focused idea to present to every american instead of sitting on the fence throwing mudpies at every repub mis-step.

So I ask you folks here- let's deal with what ideas YOU propose as an exit strategy - let's analyze here... did you think my 'exit baghdad' idea scatterbrained ? We can keep bashing each other's political affiliations endlessly-that's easy; however let's see what you can come up with; let's assume you've been given the power to stop the madness> what would you do?


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 11/09/06 11:24am