Truth or Dare, Election Ramifications Options

[Hellfighter]

As you know I'm not pro-Bush on his foreign policies... now that they've got some political clout, will the Dems now ante up and tell us how their influential input will reset the future course in Iraq? I'm thinking not. What are your solutions?

My idea>>> in 1 year US troops should pull out of Baghdad area- then let the Iraqi security forces get a taste for hardcore pulling of their weight. US troops can then deploy along the borders while Iraqi's get school of hard knocks training in large operations by themselves in that area of Iraq. With victories will come confidence. Iraqi citizens will also be getting what most of them hypothesize- US troops out supposedly means a de-escalation of terrorist attacks. As for secterian violence, I don't think US troops can stay in Iraq forever to police that. Sooner or later Iraqis have to sort that out by themselves alone.

[steel]

Also, industries are not coming to your state no matter what infrastructure you have. Those auto companies can get "rivets watched" as you put it, for $1,000 per year someplace else and yet sell their product back here in the US for the same or higher price, netting a bigger profit share, bottom line. Fat cats get richer, the little guy gets pushed down into poverty-wage jobs when their jobs dry up. But the larger profits makes the stock market rise. That's the truth about the global economy and capitalism. That's why the divide in our country between the rich and poor is getting bigger, ergo more unrest.

And that's precisely why our politicians keep debating things like gay marraige and crap like that, to get us to vote against our own family's and country's futures.

[Genocide Junkie]

Also, industries are not coming to your state no matter what infrastructure you have.

Actually that's not true. We have several auto makers who have moved to Alabama. One of which is 15 miles from where I live. However, because it is a union town they wont even consider coming here. While other towns have benefited from suppliers, we watch as they continue to locate around us. I by no means make a lot of money. BUT I live well. Save enough that Lord willing I'll retire early. AND have zero debt other than my home. These people who just can't make it on 50k a year get the big HAHAHAHAHA from me. I have little sympathy for those who would rather more their jobs away than keep them. Don't get me wrong I have friends who work there. Their dad's work there etc. I feel bad that they are not working but talk about cutting off your arm to save a fingernail..... this is the third time I know of this has happend. Once they shut the plant down for a year or so. This time might be for good. Our steel mill left completely. The people here still have the Union mentality that they are entitled. Things change and we either change with them or we get left behind. Unfortunately the town I live in is getting left behind...... I understand what unions were intended to do and now they have gone beyond making working conditions and wages reasonable. I promise you it doesnt take 2-3 new cars, a boat, 4 wheelers, a $250,000 home (which is damn expensive here), and all the trimmings to be happy. However, our nation has come to expect this. Think I'm wrong? Look around a bit and see how many people live within their means? I'd love to drive a new car and live in a bigger home. Instead I hoard my money for retirement because there's no frickin way I'll get Social Security. I get irritated everytime I look at my check stub thinking about it..... anyway I'm through with worrying about it. I get one vote for a choice of candidates that are going to screw me coming or going my choice. If one was obviously better we'd not be having this discussion we'd be counting our money with all our overemployed friends.....

Junkie