You cant kill a feeling Options

[Noodles]

Well we call it a war on terror, but it will never end. terror is a feeling people recieve therefore it wont go away so i believe this is a pointless war, or as I like to call it Vietnam 2. there have been more deaths over there since weve been there. there wouldve been way less if we just kept to our selves. countries need to help themselves before they can help others.

[Noodles]

I totally support our troops dont get me wrong on that. and 9/11, theres just nothing to describe it. but people wonder why everyone hates americans its because of who we are as a society. not all of us are the steryotypical fat lazy slobs who cheat on their women and steal money. the other difference between us and the arab nations is religion which is the main reason they attacked us. doesnt all our "gods" want the same thing? im tolerant of religion but i blame it for 90% of wars

[Hellfighter]

I totally support our troops dont get me wrong on that. and 9/11, theres just nothing to describe it. but people wonder why everyone hates americans its because of who we are as a society. not all of us are the steryotypical fat lazy slobs who cheat on their women and steal money. the other difference between us and the arab nations is religion which is the main reason they attacked us. doesnt all our "gods" want the same thing? im tolerant of religion but i blame it for 90% of wars

QUOTE(Barkmann )

and who cares that 2 planes crash into the World Trade Towers as long as you keep to yourself.



What he said!


-Pain

War in Afghanistan was/is about 9/11! why say Iaq War is about 9/11 directly as you claim? Noone involved in that directly is in Iraq.



Well you knew I'd get in on this one

I'm with noodles. I agree the war in Iraq is comparable to Vietnam in many ways... It's not all about figures in casualties to take the similarities into consideration. If you really want to look at it in math terms, it's still the same fomula - like 3 is half of 6, 1 is half of 2. Same formula different figures. I think those that still think going into Iraq was to get back at Saddam for 9/11 still miss the point, to put it bluntly. The initial 'reason' to go into Iraq was about WMD - not 9/11, and since Saddam [due to hang very soon] was reluctant to let in UN Inspectors, there was some tension leading to a hasty all systems go into Iraq.
Moving into Afghanistan was about 9/11! get it straight. . And get this sorted too; those of you who also believe in the popular myth the French are fence sitters- 2000 French troops are in Afghanistan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001-present_war_in_Afghanistan].

I was for the decision to go in for the WMD reasons; remembering how we ignored Japan and Germany being agressive prior to WW2 and ignorong the doomsday predictors. That doesn't mean I'm backing how Bush screwed up a good thing after Baghdad was captured by the hard-work of soldiers and Generals. Bush and neo-con chums masterfully lost the Iraqi public support, as they tsnatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

If you think the pee-on al quaeda insurgent rabble that are creating hell in Iraq are THE threat to the USA I honestly think you are all too easily letting Bush/neo-cons convince you the war of never ending attrition in Iraq are worth patriotic american and allied soldiers lives - isn't it a war that will ultimately only be straightened out by the Iraqi civilians alone going either way- fighting for their own freedom or not.

Al quaeda cross border 'imports' going into Iraq are part of the 'distraction' strategy- a strategy which alot of you seem to overlook too easily in my opinion. Those scumbag terrorist fighters in Iraq are easily disposable cannon fodder- they aren't the majority of insurgents in Iraq there either the coalition are keeping at bay. Al Quaeda knows even if by some miracle their elements got wiped out in Iraq they still can claim no decisive loss there-they exploited the opening of a weak post-invasion Iraq phase 2, to turn around the global support the US had after 9/11 and Afghanistan.

Remember Sauron'e eye in lord of the rings... our eye[or Bush's ] is watching Iraq but many other 'terror-inspired' events are going on while some of us are letting ourselves be distracted; sleeper cells / Taliban still in Afghanistan / I even bet Bent Laden is involved in Sudan and Somalia's latest flare-ups.
You can persuade yourself the only events to worry about preventing another 9/11 is by what's happening in Iraq-but that's just a dream. Globally it's the Intelligence network that have thwarted some real big nightmares from taking place- if you keep yourself informed- you know this. Other nightmares have not been prevented. So determine for yourself if the war in Iraq is what's really avoiding another 9/11 'in your backyard' of 'in our streets'. Al quaeda intends to use unseen terror in their target nations not via prolonged military open warfare tactics - 'in the streets', or in the countryside like Afghanistan 4 years ago- they know they'll end up running into caves or be blasted off 'the streets'.

Sometimes you need to consider if for whatever ulterior motives those in privileged positions are keeping themselves safe on top by using half of everyone else to be busy fighting the other half. Who do I mean? You decide.

I hope all the troops/police in iraq and iraqi civilians find peace in 2007.

This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 12/26/06 1:56pm