Hypocrite, Bush and N.Korea Options

[Hellfighter]

So Bush likes to harp on about not negotiating with those he considers on his list of terrorist states... now he's bending over backwards lately to an obviously feigned play from N.Korea regarding bartering fuel resources in exchange for 'de-escalation in their nuke program'.

[Major.Pain]

I didn't miss the point at all. I felt the same as you towards Slick Willie. Fact is, neither of us know what's really going on because we are not privy to all the information. Face it, you just don't like the guy. No problem there as these are only opinions we are expressing.

But you can still get your point across without the name calling, ie. hypocrite. Like it or not, he is still the President. Our President.



-Pain

[Hellfighter]

I didn't miss the point at all. I felt the same as you towards Slick Willie. Fact is, neither of us know what's really going on because we are not privy to all the information. Face it, you just don't like the guy. No problem there as these are only opinions we are expressing.

But you can still get your point across without the name calling, ie. hypocrite. Like it or not, he is still the President. Our President.



-Pain

Slick Willie was on my hated list during the Lewinsky drama after he bombed the Sudan... I didn't know at the time -despite the flak thrown up by his opponents over 'I did not...' he was still making efforts to get Bin Laden who he knew to be a predominant growing threat-something that Bush wasn't active in doing pre-9-11.
Now Bush is doing all the right moves in the wrong places. A complete route of the Taliban in Afghanistan should've been the focus.
Let me say first- as a 'normal person' I like Bush alot-he seems fun to be around and respectful and not a bully -one on one with other humans.
However, other than that.....
Whether it was crooked Cheney's deceiving him into his foreign policy blunder's like Sauron's Master Ring, or he got a high when his first term obstinate personality won him popularity for not being a typical political bend with the wind type, this is why I don't like him "as a President". Hypocrite is not name calling- it's a statement/word of fact. In a democracy you don't have to rally behind your leader when its your right and privilege to call him into question. Worse terminology than the word hypocrite have been thrown at Bush by Americans dems/repubs.
Regarding the point is being missed. He doesn't represent the the goodwill of the majority of Americans -in fact he's ignoring the majority consistently .... 70% of Americans disagree with his Iraq policy. It was he who grand-standed for years about not negotiating with 'terrorist' states. If he's got a deal going with North Korea he shouldn't boldly announce it as a victory - all it is, is a deal... that nuke program is just on hold until they want more bargaining chips.

In my opinion, The neo-cons really screwed the US regarding foreign relations. I've always stood up for US interventions in most cases except where tyrants and dictators were propped up and voted leaders of nations were underhandedly vanquished. But the last 4 years the neo-cons have prodded Bush to thumb his nose at the fellow nations and Americans that weren't aboard his choo-choo train. They [neocons] even mocked the tiny nations that left the current coalition in Iraq -well there's gratitude. Well its all backfiring now. Anyway I think most folks in democratic nations are aware its not an america policy underfire. They clearly know the distinction that its the Bush [admin] Foreign Policy at work.

So.... where do I stand, - I see Bush as a person in a social setting at the other end of the spectrum as to Bush the foreign policy maker -post invasion Afghanistan to be precise.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 02/22/07 11:05am