Hypocrite, Bush and N.Korea Options

[Hellfighter]

So Bush likes to harp on about not negotiating with those he considers on his list of terrorist states... now he's bending over backwards lately to an obviously feigned play from N.Korea regarding bartering fuel resources in exchange for 'de-escalation in their nuke program'.

[Major.Pain]

I will not apologize. I just don't get the whole anti-Bush theme. Go back a few years and pick on the uber liberal administration that handed this can of worms to the republican party. No matter what anyone does to try and fix this abortion will be wrong. I'm one of the few Americans actually proud of Bush for standing up to the onslaught of negativity.



Tell ya what, how about you or anyone else come up with a solution that works? It's real easy to critique someone's effort if you have no answers.



-Pain



ps. Btw, this doesn't even affect your homeland. Why get yer panties in a bunch over it?

[Hellfighter]

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ps. Btw, this doesn't even affect your homeland. Why get yer panties in a bunch over it?

It affects many of my Iraqi friends who have family over there for one. And I hate seeing patriotic soldiers get mown down for goofball policies [or grieviously wounded and told to wait a year for their compensation/poor outpatient services -where's Bush and the neo-cons fixing that?-that issue is not a recently revealed fact-it was brought up for years]. Also the mass recruitment for jihadists spurred on by the now floundering war will affect the whole world if things turn more sour than they aleady are. The trouble with Bush die-hards is they look at their own limited scope of what they fear will happen rather than various possibilities the course of events may take. In short, I'm saying Bushists and Cheyneynits are creating the monster they feared and have no clue that they are doing it. Globally, that area the Bush admin is stirring up in a quagmire could have detrimental effects on the stock market too.... so economy wise it has the potential to be on anyone's homefront. Look at Afghanistan, the real threat Bin Laden duped Bush into throwing off his focus... Many NATO forces are battling what should've been a routed enemy. Instead -because of the shift to Iraq, the resurgence of stiffer fighting in Afghanistan is a matter of time - so anyone in a nation with forces in NATO is affected by the spill-off effects of the Iraq War.

So you said it yourself;
"No matter what anyone does to try and fix this abortion will be wrong."
So why flounder in the mess by commiting more soldiers in a 'surge'. First it needs to be double the numbers to be a real effective surge. Second Who's to say the mess will not flare up again once Iraq is left in seemingly a peaceful existence. Why waste soldiers lives... Whatevers done is done now. The Iraqi's alone can only solve this, or a mediation with all parties concerned in the area. Guns won't fix it-correct?
Even if the Iraqi's had there own revolution to get rid off Sadam they'd still go through with a civil war [without al-quaeda too]

You can be 'proud' of Bush's maverick/lone wolf stance all you want. But when you have a Prez that promised he'd listen to his Generals advice and doesn't, and ignores the recent November elections results and doesn't get the hint the majority of Americans want a change in policy, then I can see why you don't want to apologize for you twisting my anti-Bush rhetoric into an agitative 'anti-American' beef/statement .... and no doubt you couldn't find a single statement I made to that effect.

ps. Everyone IS telling Bush what they would do [LIBS/DEMS/center REPUBS]... BUT, it's not what Bush-Cheney likes to hear, or not based on a neo-con principle... so he throws it in a garbage can AND starts blabbering about 'Well I still haven't heard what anyone else wants to do?"






This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 03/09/07 10:30am