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Johnzillah
post 08/13/03 4:37pm
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Just wanted to say that I wish Mobclan the best of luck tonight with =COM= on your path to be OGL Champions. I have no doubt that you will succeed tonight. =COM= seems to be some pretty stiff competition, but I know the best when I see them. Mobclan is that clan. They proved it before and the ladder from was taken from them like a theif in the night. Good luck guys. Like Epacy said before time was the only obstacle. It’s now that time.

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post 08/20/03 3:07am
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QUOTE (Whatever @ Aug 19 2003, 12:34 PM)
More importantly, COM cheated.  They use 2 NIC cards and create a QOS on the one the opposing teams uses, thereby giving their own full bandwidth while limiting bandwidth packets on the opposing team.  OGL knows they do it, but cannot address it since it's very hard to prove.

Whatever

As I'm sitting here reading your post, I'm trying to decide which is worse.
Having to put up with cheaters or having to put up with people crying about cheating.
I'm not talking about the noobs who just cry cheat, but dumbasses like you who feel the need to make up these stupid stories to try and justify themselves when they cry cheat.

I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume your a member of the 7th Rangers. I assume that's a safe bet since the only other topic you've posted in is the one about us leaving OGL after our match with the 7th Rangers.
If anyone wants to look at your past drivel on our forum here you go.
Your bogus claim about MOB being listed on the cheatpolice site
Claiming an MOB player was trying to steal your rcon password
More of your pathetic drivel

The simple response would be, to point out how how funny it is your team was able to take the top rung on OGL, but lost it when the anti-cheat measures were put into place. You guys went from an almost straight win record to a striaght loss record. Gee, I wonder why???
And you have the nerve to cry cheat about someone else??
Give me a f_cking break.

There was an interesting topic on the /.BAD/ forum a while back. I wish I would of saved it but here is a copy of a quick summary I posted in our private forum.
From a /BAD/ Heavy D
He's referencing the fact that up to a point there were a few members of Halo who were widely known as hacks (Silver, chefslax, plus?). The OGL win for first place included members hacking and there was a big to do when the 7th got caught by an OGL admin during the match with MOB. MOB left OGL because of the 7th Rangers. Shortly after the MOB match, Dirty Harry tendered his resignation citing 'rampant cheating among the ranks' that he had failed to act on. Many members happened to read the post but either 6 or DH deleted it shortly afterward.

There in is the irony; that 6 is currently the 'soup nazi' rule wise when the highest ladder successes of the 7th were the result of hacking. There is not a veteran member of the 7th who didn't know Silver and Chef were hacks yet the stock response was "when we found out, we banned them" or in other words when we got caught we banned them.


The Reply from 7thRangers Deluzion
i have been in 7th for a very long time Heavy, i remember what happened when the MOB thing went down, when i played with Silver i thought he was hacking also but that is besides the point, Silver was let go of the clan and chef left or was kicked im not sure which it was but they are both no longer with us as you know
We do not cheat. We run forced screen shots on all our members.


From /BAD/ HeavyD
After the MOB moment or 'the shift' if you had been there a while you would have quickly noticed that several Halo member's ratios dropped dramatically and permanently (where were the 5-1 gods?).

Regardless, I know when you got in, I was there once and naive as well. I joined 7th (despite Harry's protest) after getting the game for a week or two. I championed their arguments during the hack debate only to look back and feel dirty and dumb.

The vast majority of the current squad have never hacked (note most now are not original Halo). What the 7th will never escape is that the their time at the top was dirty (harry) and their attempts there-after would make an injury lawyer proud. This is a history you must shoulder and to that end I invite you to look at just a few things;

-Do the comments from Dirty Harry about myself, KOD, Moldmaker, and our clan overall make you proud?
-Do the actions and behavior of 6e make you wonder?
-Do you realize that most people get paid to endure the crap 6 and Harry give out.
-Do you agree with what the 7th did the other night in those 2 minutes?; we all know that 6 give you no choice, we all no that you don't know what it's like to have a choice/say in a clan.
-Are you certain of the heritage you defend?

I'll end with one challenge.

Ask any veteran ranger to post here who was there and knew silver and chef; Shooter would be the dividing line for time. Ask them in the 7th's defense to post here that; "I was absolutely clueless that Silver or Chef were hacks until well after the MOB match".


The Reply from 7thRangers Deluzion
I relized then and i relize now that he/they probaly hacked and they are no longer with us, so nothing we can really do about this now but then to look back at it so there is no REAL reason to go back to this. Some of /Bad./ knows that we all went down this road after the MOB match.

From /BAD/ HeavyD
The leadership of 6e and Harry wholeheartedly endorsed hacking by keeping and playing these members in critical matches. Again the rise to number one for 7th was using hacks by some if not all (Thor contends that all of Halo were hacks 'without exception'). No one is really arguing that 7th Halo didn't hack up until getting caught in the MOB match (no 7th responses yet but we'll leave that one open). The leadership remains... and like a convicted child molester, once caught, you always have to keep your eye on them.

One of the current members of the 7th told me that Harry left because his specific order not to hack in the MOB match with the admins watching went ignored. He however tries to imply that it was me? that motivated him and that my leaving pushed him to return ????


Now I realize people may think I just made all of that up. If you have any questions about this being accurate. Please feel free to ask /BAD/ HeavyD
about it.

If that wasn't enough, here is an email we received.
The email started as a question from a {GDEC} player to 7thRangers Thor asking what happened in our match ( MOB vs 7thRanders ). Thor replied claiming {MOB} cheated by changing the CKR mod in the match making the weapons stronger for us and weaker for them. Not only is this stupid but impossible, the server would have to be restarted just as another GDEC person pointed out. The Funny thing is, that's not the 1st time a clan has claimed we changed the mod.
These are from or 1st OGL match.
MOB has better grenades
MOB has better guns
It was stupid than and it's just as stupid now almost a year later.
Here is the email where THOR claimed we had switched the CKR mod in the match, he also makes his stupid claim about =COM= and how they cheat by making people ping bad on their server.
http://mobclan.com/thor.eml
( The email link doesn't work for some people, if it doesn't work, right click and choose save as )
Luckily for us, one of the GDEC members set the record straight and explained why the accusation made by 7thRangers Thor was ludicrous.

Now I'll set the record straight about this and =COM=
1) They didn't cheat against us, and they sure as hell didn't cheat against you.
2) =COM= Bouncer and I were talking about the wild cheat accusations against MOB and COM a few days before our match. Bouncer offered to let me remotely login to his server to see how it was setup just prior to the match if I had any concerns . I'm not talking about rcon into his MOHAA server, but actually access his machine. To me this just shows what a stand-up guy he is and how he didn't have anything to hide.
All either of us wanted was a clean match, were no one from either team left with any worries about someone cheating.

Now let me set the record straight once and for all.
QUOTE (Whatever @ Aug 19 2003, 12:34 PM)
More importantly, COM cheated.  They use 2 NIC cards and create a QOS on the one the opposing teams uses, thereby giving their own full bandwidth while limiting bandwidth packets on the opposing team.  Whatever

Just like you said, it would take 2 network cards.
Here is the specs on their server
http://servepath.com/servers/advancedpath/index.htm#2
scroll down ad click on the link that says "Specification and Photo".
Guess what? only 1 network card, not 2.

I'm done, you can now go set your whiny little ass in the chair facing the corner.
When you learn how not to act like a total idiot , I'll let you out of timeout.
I swear, kids these days.


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Johnzillah   World OGL Champion   08/13/03 4:37pm
JP   Heh nice pic zilla, and good luck tonight guys   08/13/03 5:37pm
Hard Drive   no need to wish these guys luck. we already know ...   08/13/03 6:19pm
Cold_Beer   Well I'll be damned, you sorry fuckers lost. ...   08/14/03 1:27am
dionysos   we lost but we will be stronger next time. Anyway ...   08/14/03 1:36am
Kipp Da Pimp   mob=   08/14/03 2:24am
Kipp Da Pimp   and...   08/14/03 2:24am
Epacy   The first pic was better.   08/14/03 7:16am
Nixon   Kipp....did your mother drink allot of paint thinn...   08/14/03 10:27am
Clan Killa   Kipp, your a funny guy. You live just to get on M...   08/14/03 3:46pm
Cold_Beer   kipp, thats looks like some shit I would post. Je...   08/14/03 6:43pm
Kipp Da Pimp   nixon and clan killa...   08/14/03 7:33pm
dionysos   Kipp Da Pimp http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/p...   08/14/03 8:33pm
little old man   Kipp I found someone your age to give you a messag...   08/14/03 9:21pm
Johnzillah   hahahahahahahhahahha you fuckhead im crying here...   08/14/03 9:24pm
little old man   p.s kipp why not come on our servers(when we are o...   08/14/03 9:27pm
Wassy   Excellent point Old Man. Ditto from me.   08/15/03 7:28am
Cold_Beer   Man you boys are breaking out the railroad cannons...   08/15/03 12:32pm
Kirby   Hey Kipp Da Pimp. I see by your picture you get yo...   08/15/03 12:47pm
JP   haha, that shirt rules   08/15/03 1:03pm
Wassy   Kirby, you and the Old Man have the best photos.   08/15/03 6:23pm
Panzer   C'mon guys slow down the kipp bashing, you hav...   08/17/03 6:41pm
Kipp Da Pimp   ....   08/18/03 1:25am
Whatever   More importantly, COM cheated. They use 2 NIC car...   08/19/03 1:34pm
Epacy   Well identify yourself and let us know how you kno...   08/19/03 2:27pm
Panzer   Very interesting, I would like to hear Bouncers re...   08/19/03 9:57pm
JP   Well it can be done none the less so it could be t...   08/20/03 12:10am
Panzer   I know it can be done, saw bouncer in here viewing...   08/20/03 1:09am
Mayhem   Post your proof or email it to any MOB member, ...   08/20/03 2:23am
=C O M= Bouncer   Answer: Click Here   08/20/03 2:24am
Druid   As I'm sitting here reading your post, I...   08/20/03 3:07am
Panzer   Well, there you have it...grassy knole conspiracy ...   08/20/03 10:38am
Druid   Even better than that. I did a little research an...   08/20/03 11:23am
SOKHAR_[H]   This is the dumbest shit I have heard it is quit o...   08/20/03 11:25am
Panzer   Very nice Druid! Just when the =7= :fing tr...   08/20/03 11:32am
realdeal   Druid, I know we've kept this between us for s...   08/20/03 2:16pm
Smoke   Nicely done Druid!   08/20/03 3:14pm
=C O M= Bouncer   Druid, That was a great post. It looks like you...   08/22/03 3:44pm
JP   Druid nothing agiainst any of the teams, and im no...   08/22/03 4:02pm
Druid   Your right, but the the page says only one nic a...   08/22/03 4:58pm
=C O M= Bouncer   This will put an end to that thought. Please noti...   08/22/03 6:05pm
Johnzillah   I think this is just true sportsmanship between ...   08/22/03 7:02pm
Cold_Beer   Let MOB's regulars take on COM in the rubber m...   08/27/03 1:50am


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