| Old Man Mike |
06/23/07 4:01pm
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![]() Admin ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 1711 Joined: October 4th 2005 From: Huntertown, IN Member No.: 1372 Xfire: mwcook |
One of my Draganflyer helicopters has fallen and can't get up:
Death of a Draganflyer Here's a picture of the crumpled mess: ![]() Actually, I don't think you can blame my flying. You can hear the motors drop once and then a second time just before it starts to go into freefall. I've seen this happen a few times before but it had always been for less than one second and then recovered. The only good news here is that my homemade custom camera mount protected the video camera. It survived without a scratch. Old Man Mike |
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| Clint |
06/26/07 4:18am
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ouch that looks painful.
here's a possible root cause analysis: On that first glitch, it sounded like only one motor was cutting out. you can hear the rpms drop, and to compensate, it started to pull too much current and a few seconds later fried one of the gyros/main esc board. one possible reason for failure could be that the camera was a bit heavy and caused the motors to pull more current than normal. Also high altitude summer air(thin air) also pulls more current/heat to the motor. The brushes on 370's dont last too long under heavy load at 11.1v, they can overheat easily and cause the situation above. the only way to protect against this is a separate fuse for each motor. A benefit of this on a regular r/c heli is, if the main motor/fuse dies, you can still autorotate the heli back down safely. if the tail rotor dies you can hit throttle hold, and use the collective to lower the pitch of the blades to bring it down. Unfortunately with a 4 rotor, it's still going to crash if any single motor dies, but at least the electrics wont fry. Using a single fuse on main v+ will not detect an overload on any single motor; ie 3 motors can be using 2 amps each and the failing 4th motor could be pulling 8 amps and still not cause a 15amp fuse to blow since the whole system is using 8+2+2+2=14amps. whereas the Mosfets are most likely 5amp continuous/7amp peak, so this situation would fry a gryo/esc. A single fuse setup only protects the Lipo from overdraw(which is good too). you may be able to salvage the main board if it's not physiclly broken from the crash(peizo gryos can be damaged on impact.) If it's just some blown mosfets, then resoldering on some new mosfets isnt too hard..and you can probably find replacement chips at newark.com or digikey for a buck or two each. a few high res pics of the main board and i might be able to help. The draganflyer is a really unique heli, sad to see it down. -------------------- |
Old Man Mike Death of a Draganflyer 06/23/07 4:01pm
Rommel Next time you should try to use a parachute as bac... 06/23/07 6:31pm
Shred and Burn Oh the humanity !
:D 06/23/07 7:46pm
flatliner Gimme a minute...
OK I have a video on photobuck... 06/23/07 9:03pm
Nemesis LOL I love the way the camera bounces around and t... 06/23/07 8:42pm
M@ster of Dis@ster I sure sounds like the engine let you down, not yo... 06/23/07 8:54pm
Cross of Iron Ouch....I feel sorry for you OMM 06/23/07 10:43pm
Ouch Well that really suxs. 06/24/07 3:19pm
T/A6Pak I think GIJoe has a little duct tape...LOL
Sen... 06/24/07 3:28pm
Old Man Mike
ouch that looks painful.
here's a possible... 06/26/07 5:24am
Clint
Ah, a fellow engineer. Actually power to all fou... 06/26/07 8:31am
flatliner COME ON!!! TELL ME HOW TO POST A VIDEO... 06/26/07 8:24am![]() ![]() |
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