MOW is great but can get tiresome with campers, I have seen a camper mod that would point you out if!!! Options

[William Wallace]

Just a suggestion but I have seen a camper MOD before that would tell you if you don;t get moving you would get marked for camping and an arrow over your head or something like that would show you to the other team unless you moved out of the area.


It may be a good addition to a great server to get rid of the people lying around just caping and sniping especially if they only have one base left to defend.


Just a thought????

[Kleerance]

Personally I think the biggest problem is the dramatic downsizing of tank power. As Mod said nobody is using them anymore. That's because the people move too fast and the zook's are loading too fast. Every time I grab a tank (and I love them) it's like begging to be killed. You haven't a chance against 10 Carl Lewis' running around with an auto-loading bazooka. So my input for a better gameplay is equalizing the advantage of a running soldier with zook. Either by speeding up/armouring the tanks or downsizing the auto-loading speed for the zooks.

[M@ster of Dis@ster]

Personally I think the biggest problem is the dramatic downsizing of tank power. As Mod said nobody is using them anymore. That's because the people move too fast and the zook's are loading too fast. Every time I grab a tank (and I love them) it's like begging to be killed. You haven't a chance against 10 Carl Lewis' running around with an auto-loading bazooka. So my input for a better gameplay is equalizing the advantage of a running soldier with zook. Either by speeding up/armouring the tanks or downsizing the auto-loading speed for the zooks.

This is why I was asking/wishing the tanks could be made tougher or something. I'd be all for a Barb version 2.0 with faster, stronger tanks. But I guess you can't change someone else's mod. Anyway, too bad, because that's part of the issue. Modern weapons + old tanks = and change in the balance of BA games.

Anyway, working within the MW mod only, I'd say yes, dial down Dragnov and the zook. The zook is built in a way that it absolutely devastates tank drivers. First it shoots straight every time, reloads fast, and hits hard. But even after all that the part that makes it absolutely devastating is you move at superspeed with it. It becomes so easy to dart from out of a corner, sprint behind a tank, and unload and destroy with one shot! I've even CHARGED at tanks with my rocket many times, dodged and weaved successfully because I was moving so fast, and got two front shots for a kill. Question: Why not make it that you run faster with some of the other guns, and slower with a rocket? It's always been a little confusing why we run fastest with, what I would think, is the heaviest weapon.

The "problem" witht the Draganov is it has the best of almost all world's. It is really a full-auto sniper rifle, so I actually don't mind that. However, it is the only one where there is almost no muzzle bounce or lift. Hold it full on, and all bullets could still hit a dime from 100 feet. Then, unlike other guns, it has zero sway when moving while in sniper mode. All that, and it still hits hard to enough to kill with 1-2 shots almost every time. It's just devastating. If you use any other gun, you're just handicapping yourself. Which kind of sucks, there's such a huge list of guns and so many are never used because the Draganov has them dominated.

To be honest Steel, I think it's a shame you worked so hard on making so many neat guns to see only one of them be used. It's too bad these things couldn't be tweaked easily to find better balance. Personally, I'd like to see the automatic and non-snipers pumped up to encourage players to use the close-up weapons more, instead of using Dragnov for long and medium range, and macs for short. That's how to get rid of campers. Make it a little tough to use the snipers. In fact, I think one of the things I liked best about COD was the sniper rifles low level of zoom and it's sway meant there weren't 20 snipers on each map. There was only a few who only became good after a lot of practice, which, IMO, was fair and right. Sniping is a skill. In RL, it is hard to hit moving targets that are 50-200 feet away!

Good luck with whatever chocies you make. Obviously,finding the sweet spot of "balance" it always going to be a tricky thing, and will never leave everyone truly satisfied. A big difference here was you were making a mod for TDM, and suddenly it got thrown into a BA server.