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William Wallace
post 08/18/07 7:52pm
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Just a suggestion but I have seen a camper MOD before that would tell you if you don;t get moving you would get marked for camping and an arrow over your head or something like that would show you to the other team unless you moved out of the area.


It may be a good addition to a great server to get rid of the people lying around just caping and sniping especially if they only have one base left to defend.


Just a thought????


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post 08/27/07 10:08am
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I honestly believe the main problem for not being able to blow all 3 bases is because there are way too many noobs playing that dont care to do so. Its total chaos and not many are defending either. They are playing as if it were a TDM, not BAS. No strategy while playing. Thats the main reason all three bases have not been taken most of the time. I cant tell you how many times I have been frustrated to see myself and a few others playing defense while the entire team runs in a completely different direction of a planted base. Its not because of the weapon, its because of the type of players we have playing.

As far as the Druganov goes, yes its a shipers weapon, but I use it as a MG allot of the time. Not only as a snipers rifle. If we take that out, most will take a scoped rifle. It will take away of the sweeper-weapon used by many (the druganov) and more will camp with their rifles. Thats all im saying. So removing it will do two things, 1. Make more campers/snipers play. 2. Attract less people because allot play due to the weapon. I believe these to be true and this is my point from the start of me posting on here. If you think otherwise, please explain.


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If i picked the 90 day vs the week, it was an error on my part. I was just looking through stats of different players using the weapon.


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QUOTE(Nothing @ 08/27/07 12:08pm) *

I honestly believe the main problem for not being able to blow all 3 bases is because there are way too many noobs playing that dont care to do so. Its total chaos and not many are defending either. They are playing as if it were a TDM, not BAS. No strategy while playing. Thats the main reason all three bases have not been taken most of the time. I cant tell you how many times I have been frustrated to see myself and a few others playing defense while the entire team runs in a completely different direction of a planted base. Its not because of the weapon, its because of the type of players we have playing.

As far as the Druganov goes, yes its a shipers weapon, but I use it as a MG allot of the time. Not only as a snipers rifle. If we take that out, most will take a scoped rifle. It will take away of the sweeper-weapon used by many (the druganov) and more will camp with their rifles. Thats all im saying. So removing it will do two things, 1. Make more campers/snipers play. 2. Attract less people because allot play due to the weapon. I believe these to be true and this is my point from the start of me posting on here. If you think otherwise, please explain.


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If i picked the 90 day vs the week, it was an error on my part. I was just looking through stats of different players using the weapon.



Firstly, again the Draganov is a scoped rifle. The beauty of it is you get a scoped rifle but also a full automatic assult rifle, so there is no sacrifice. I think if it were to be removed or toned down, some would pick scoped rifles, and some would pick the other quite good assult rifles. The scoped guys would camp, like many do now, but with single shot action they won't be nearly as effective in "sniper" mode, and when the assult rifles guys get close, the advantage will change. In older modern weapons mod's, the AK47 was used tons by people, it was MORE popular than, say, the single shot camo sniper (which was still good too). The M16 varient was used a lot also. So no, I don't think there's evidence that all will become bolt-action snipers who never move forward.

Additionally, as stated, I would like to see a vastly toned down RP-7 as well. That would allow people to use tanks again, which again cuts down on snipers, because you can cross much of the map in the safety of a tank. One you close the gap even if you have to abandon the tank, guns like the AK-47 can be mean in mid-range battles, assuming you're enemy isn't able to just shoot from the hip with his incredibly accurate, powerful full-auto sniper rifle that is the Draganov.

I still hope that maybe we can start another server modified and then we'd se what's what. I'd be totally happy with aa BArb server with modified modern weapons that was half full of players who know how to play BA, versus playing on a full server stuffed with TDM players who are more intent on killing than on blowing or defending bases. If we had two servers that satisfied both crowds, that would be great IMO.


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William Wallace   MOW is great but can get tiresome with campers   08/18/07 7:52pm
Barkmann   Whats the point of being a sniper if you cant camp...   08/18/07 7:56pm
Keystone Two-Eight   Whats the point of being a sniper if you cant cam...   08/20/07 8:56am
MyWifesMule   Camper = Defender, no more no less.   08/19/07 6:51am
Kleerance   Wallace - I share your frustration, but I'm no...   08/19/07 8:07am
M@ster of Dis@ster   Wallace - I share your frustration, but I'm n...   08/19/07 9:51am
landser   Seems like most of the people on the sever are new...   08/19/07 12:05pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   Seems like most of the people on the sever are ne...   08/19/07 12:51pm
Blitz   Seems like most of the people on the sever are n...   08/19/07 1:13pm
THE Mechanic   Camping as far as im concerned can be frustrating ...   08/19/07 1:17pm
landser   Not start a 50 page topic but while morden weapons...   08/19/07 3:02pm
William Wallace   What about trying modern weapons on Tuchola as wel...   08/19/07 8:15pm
MFD IPFreely   I like the MWBA server. My only change would be ma...   08/19/07 8:56pm
majorhavoc   I like the MWBA server. My only change would be m...   08/20/07 11:46am
Barkmann   MWTF........NO WAY.....   08/19/07 11:12pm
Abuse   I like the MWBA server. My only change would be ...   08/20/07 12:52pm
MFD IPFreely   I Agree with you guys on this one.The reason i ...   08/20/07 8:58pm
shazbot   This is a sticky subject. If we are all sick of th...   08/20/07 1:07pm
Barkmann   We could always add a new noob gun in to make the ...   08/20/07 9:08pm
Mess   Here's my two cents: Let the campers camp - w...   08/21/07 11:33am
M@ster of Dis@ster   Here's my two cents: Let the campers camp - ...   08/21/07 11:55am
steel   I'm following this thread very closely and hav...   08/21/07 12:08pm
Abuse   I'm following this thread very closely and ha...   08/21/07 2:12pm
The-Blind-Norwegian   3. I might be able to tone down the dragunov so...   08/21/07 5:01pm
Kleerance   Personally I think the biggest problem is the dram...   08/21/07 2:50pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   Personally I think the biggest problem is the dra...   08/21/07 8:37pm
Barkmann   might as well take off the sniper rifles, if your ...   08/21/07 2:51pm
Genocide Junkie   I know there will be some who won't like this ...   08/21/07 2:58pm
William Wallace   Steel thanks for creating this MODDED server first...   08/21/07 9:47pm
steel   Okay, I put in some scripting changes, but my weap...   08/22/07 8:36am
The-Blind-Norwegian   I reduced the strength of the Dragunov and RPG-7 ...   08/23/07 2:36am
M@ster of Dis@ster   I reduced the strength of the Dragunov and RPG-7...   08/23/07 7:00am
The-Blind-Norwegian   I mean, you're sitting back at home anyway. ...   08/23/07 7:38am
M@ster of Dis@ster   I mean, you're sitting back at home anyway....   08/23/07 10:34am
Angus Thermopyle   However, here's a change that would have a m...   08/23/07 11:32am
Rommel   [quote name='The-Blind-Norwegian' post=...   08/24/07 3:43am
Abuse   Thank you Steel. I will try it out tonight. :emoti...   08/22/07 11:03am
Blitz   Steel, You are the greatest! :emoticonthumbsu...   08/22/07 12:33pm
Nothing   I think that the Druganov being the bad-ass weapon...   08/22/07 2:56pm
Kleerance   I think that the Druganov being the bad-ass weapo...   08/22/07 4:19pm
steel   Sorry Nothing, but I have added each of you with h...   08/22/07 4:19pm
Nothing   So whats the difference with someone sniping on a ...   08/22/07 4:37pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   So whats the difference with someone sniping on a...   08/22/07 5:55pm
majorhavoc   So whats the difference with someone sniping on a...   08/22/07 5:57pm
Kleerance   So whats the difference with someone sniping on a...   08/23/07 2:09am
Mess   Hey All! First of all - I want to thank Steel...   08/22/07 10:45pm
Hellfighter   Didn't a clan with a 'rats kitchen' ma...   08/23/07 11:36am
Nothing   I think its going to have to be one of those thing...   08/23/07 11:49am
M@ster of Dis@ster   I never said that weakening the Druganov will ma...   08/23/07 2:14pm
Abuse   I never said that weakening the Druganov will m...   08/23/07 3:22pm
Barkmann   I wonder if MOB got into BF2 [b][size=5]Can we mo...   08/23/07 2:27pm
Nothing   I guess its going to have to be one of those I tol...   08/23/07 6:23pm
MFD IPFreely   If we take away or weaken the Druganov, it will...   08/23/07 6:37pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   If we take away or weaken the Druganov, it wil...   08/23/07 6:56pm
Nothing   I still think there will be more sniping than ther...   08/23/07 8:19pm
Hellfighter   Can we put a schmeisser-MP40 in this new mod? LOL ...   08/24/07 3:40am
Rommel   Can we put a schmeisser-MP40 in this new mod? LOL...   08/24/07 4:05am
Bargod   Personally I think this will evolve if we don...   08/24/07 3:59am
Shred and Burn   What frustrates me is when I am down to one base (...   08/24/07 6:23am
M@ster of Dis@ster   What frustrates me is when I am down to one base ...   08/24/07 7:29am
William Wallace   I didn't notice much diff after the changes ei...   08/24/07 7:48am
Nothing   Its obvious that so many are against the Druganov,...   08/24/07 9:04am
majorhavoc   Its obvious that so many are against the Druganov...   08/24/07 11:06am
Nothing   How do you know? You have not seen this mod being...   08/24/07 11:20am
majorhavoc   How do you know? You have not seen this mod bein...   08/24/07 3:47pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   How do you know? You have not seen this mod bein...   08/24/07 10:26pm
MFD IPFreely   Above is my stats for the top 3 weapons I have ...   08/24/07 10:29pm
Wheeler   Tried a few of the other weapons out tonight outsi...   08/24/07 11:59pm
Barkmann   Well for onething i dont use the Druganov, so that...   08/24/07 1:39pm
Nothing   Hey Barkman, I know you always use a rifle. Just...   08/24/07 2:09pm
Kleerance   Hey Barkman, I know you always use a rifle. Just...   08/24/07 3:22pm
Nothing   I dont take this personally at all. I just say it...   08/24/07 3:58pm
MFD IPFreely   The sniper rifles on the MW servers are different ...   08/24/07 9:10pm
Blitz   I play with the Camo sniper rifle (not sure the na...   08/25/07 9:28am
Cpt.Canuck   Well I dont play much anymore either, but mostly b...   08/26/07 12:50pm
Mess   Well said Cpt.Canuck! I agree with almost all...   08/26/07 1:03pm
Nothing   I honestly believe the main problem for not being ...   08/27/07 10:08am
M@ster of Dis@ster   I honestly believe the main problem for not being...   08/27/07 10:52am
majorhavoc   I honestly believe the main problem for not being...   08/27/07 10:58am
Nothing   You exactly proved one of my points. That is why ...   08/27/07 11:51am
majorhavoc   You exactly proved one of my points. That is why...   08/27/07 12:43pm
MFD IPFreely   Were in the learning phase of this territory. ...   08/27/07 12:52pm
Nothing   Yes, they are similar, but at least they can be ki...   08/27/07 1:54pm
majorhavoc   After we get rid of it , then there will be anothe...   08/27/07 2:42pm
Nothing   Yes, they are similar, but at least they can be k...   10/30/07 2:41pm
Abuse   :withstupid:   08/27/07 2:51pm
Nothing   Im done with the discussion on this topic. I will...   08/27/07 3:16pm
Barkmann   Why dont we just that off the Dragunaov and see wh...   08/27/07 3:44pm
The-Blind-Norwegian   Why dont we just that off the Dragunaov and see w...   09/03/07 10:16pm
Rommel   [quote name='Barkmann' post='159072' date='08/27/...   09/04/07 4:36am
Ouch   I have to say I never thought I would play on that...   09/03/07 11:23pm
majorhavoc   I have to say I never thought I would play on tha...   09/05/07 3:25pm
Nothing   Wow, So I guess I wasnt the only one that wanted ...   09/04/07 8:54am
M@ster of Dis@ster   Wow, So I guess I wasnt the only one that wanted...   09/04/07 6:40pm
Barkmann   Long Live the NOOBGUN[url=http://www.arlingtonhote...   09/04/07 3:16pm
Nothing   I dont know if anyone else has noticed, but Im pre...   09/05/07 6:45pm
Meowman   I dont know if anyone else has noticed, but Im pr...   09/05/07 8:35pm
flatliner   I dont know if anyone else has noticed, but Im pr...   09/05/07 11:35pm


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