Now even a noble General gets arm twisted by Bush admin., ...and Bush's speech Options

[Hellfighter]

Bush admin = arm twisters
- remember Gonzo at hospital bed seeking a signature from a very sick admin member
- now Bush admin telling General Petraeus not to speak his mind so frankly.
http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/20...xploit_pet.html

here's this for you Bush fans;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiuRhy4CqzU...;watch_response


Of course those amongst you in the 30% of Bush fans will sight obvious gains -even though ignoring the costs and why. Displaced Iraqis in hundreds of thousands -rival religious segments of populations vacating areas which is a result of successful death squad shite liquidations.

Judging by Bush's speech, the gullable would think everythings smooth sailing in Iraq's imminent future - if we stay the course. Bush is using a General Patton trick-in the rush into GermanyWW2 Patton had a trick of getting a load of the limited supplies available to all the allied generals on that Front by asking for a little bit at a time so as to never get refused- and then keep asking for a little bit more - and more....... You thought Bush would keep his word and tell us the surge would end now as scheduled- hah---- now he's saying wait a bit more until next Summer......... one could get the impression he wants too prolong his screw-up into the next Presidency so they will get the blame when the effort in Iraq fails/goes worse.....

Surge has failed to bring political stability in Iraq. The present govt. is a puppet for the militias and no doubt Iran's whacko leadrership. Shites will soon fight each other power grabbing rights.

All I heard Bush ramble on about is military successes. Troops are human beings - the war effort has gone on too long -the effort is tiring and draining ->nearing breaking point -especially when the CinC has no clue when the military side of things would end----- land no clue about what would happen after Iraq is 'free'. That's when the real fireworks will begin with factions and groups wrestling for power with each other -as a result of no leadership unifying everyone.

What's really revolting in that 'speech' is the continuous referencing to 9-11.
I'll keep saying it - why does Bush keep babbling the stupid fantasy that pee-on cannon fodder al quaeda ops trickling in from Syria [ even 10% of enemy activities there?] are who will be landing in the USA and elsewhere to bring streetfighting terror on our doorsteps. Definately fear-mongering crappola - Bin Laden's all set and recuperated because of Bush's thick-headed crusade-delusional single-mindedness.
I hope some wrath kicks the asses of most of the Dems in congress/senate/presidential race to stop being pansies by only thinking about hedging their bets on 'the surge' results to look good in the next year in making insincere speeches to voters.




This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 09/13/07 8:35pm

[THE Mechanic]

Hellfighter,

Last night i clicked on the post about leave Brittany alone and afterward i thought to my self,that would be great if they did a spoof on bush to leave him alone.

To leave the General alone with Bush doing the crying absolutely classic man.I need a tissue for sure.

A great post thanks for the belly laugh..



I don't consider myself gullable but i do fall into the 30% and am proud of it.Just thought i'd return a belly laugh to you.

Don't stop being You brother, I enjoy reading meny of your posts,they keep me thinking even though i my not agree with some of your politics they are very informative.



"Pain" Pick me up please, "T.M."

[Capt. Andtennille]

I don't consider myself gullable but i do fall into the 30% and am proud of it.Just thought i'd return a belly laugh to you.

Hellfighter is in the 18% that support the democrat congress. Bush is now at 36% and probably half of them dislike him for exactly opposite reasons the left hates him. LOL

[Hellfighter]

Hellfighter,

Last night i clicked on the post about leave Brittany alone and afterward i thought to my self,that would be great if they did a spoof on bush to leave him alone.
.......

Hahahaa, I think you could do some scripts for other youtube wannabe superstars perhaps

I don't consider myself gullable but i do fall into the 30% and am proud of it.Just thought i'd return a belly laugh to you.

Hellfighter is in the 18% that support the democrat congress. Bush is now at 36% and probably half of them dislike him for exactly opposite reasons the left hates him. LOL

ohhhh, I'm just busting balls regarding 'gullable' in referring to rival opinioned members at MOB/forums, Mr.Andtennile ,and my chum Mechanic ....
Those that aren't in mob/forums are gullable imo
Please clarify why half of Bush's 36% of supporters dislike him -that sounds intriguing.....

I'm not sure if you read my posts in full Mr.Andtennile or if you just like seeing me type too much more than I have to in correcting your presumptions
I repeatedly said I don't like many of the Dems in power right now - and I'm definately not supportive of their pansy efforts in the Senate and Congress -which I rate barely better than the repubs - so for the record I'm not in the 18%.... As I said before I liked Bush senior as a world leader. I would like Bush junior as a next door neighbour and as a funny reliable friend who I wouldn't shy away from acquainting with at all. For the record he's not in his element as a leader for the people and I'm nauseated by his habit of choosing loose-cannon chums over those who are the best choices to be in his admin [or when he does have qualified people, he silences/fires them if they raise slightly divergent opinions to his own].
For the record, the dems I do truly like in the presidential race, are almost nil -most are self-serving hypocrites... the ones I think have some sincere clarity I don't think would be world leaders - I personally like Joe Biden. Obama would be ready as a President in 2016 imo. Clinton is the 'safest' bet since she's very shrewd and calculating [and an irritating fence sitter] before jumping into decisions -besides which she'll have your chum Billy-boy giving her pointers on getting through any tight squeezes she may get into.....
-> which I know deep inside you Mr.Andtennile, you find very reassuring come out of the closet and admit it!
I, Hellfighter approve this message.



This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 09/14/07 8:51am

[Capt. Andtennille]

ohhhh, I'm just busting balls regarding 'gullable' in referring to rival opinioned members at MOB/forums, Mr.Andtennile ,and my chum Mechanic ....

Thats Capt. Andtennile to you!!

Please clarify why half of Bush's 36% of supporters dislike him -that sounds intriguing.....

This is easy. Say a polster asks the question "Do you approve of the way President Bush is handling the war in Iraq?". Someone who hates all wars would say NO. Someone with BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) who hates Bush so bad that they are against anything he does would say NO as well. Someone in the middle who feels that we can't let the middle east fall under the control of Iran woud say YES. Someone like me, who thinks that we could have wrapped this up a long time ago by letting our soldiers fight rather than tying thier hands with unreasonable rules of engagement would say NO. Add it up and he ends up with a 25% approval rating in his handling of the war. 75% of the people disapprove, but for diametrically opposed reasons.

I'm not sure if you read my posts in full Mr.Andtennile or if you just like seeing me type too much more than I have to in correcting your presumptions
I repeatedly said I don't like many of the Dems in power right now - and I'm definately not supportive of their pansy efforts in the Senate and Congress -which I rate barely better than the repubs - so for the record I'm not in the 18%.... As I said before I liked Bush senior as a world leader. I would like Bush junior as a next door neighbour and as a funny reliable friend who I wouldn't shy away from acquainting with at all. For the record he's not in his element as a leader for the people and I'm nauseated by his habit of choosing loose-cannon chums over those who are the best choices to be in his admin [or when he does have qualified people, he silences/fires them if they raise slightly divergent opinions to his own].
For the record, the dems I do truly like in the presidential race, are almost nil -most are self-serving hypocrites... the ones I think have some sincere clarity I don't think would be world leaders - I personally like Joe Biden. Obama would be ready as a President in 2016 imo. Clinton is the 'safest' bet since she's very shrewd and calculating [and an irritating fence sitter] before jumping into decisions -besides which she'll have your chum Billy-boy giving her pointers on getting through any tight squeezes she may get into.....
-> which I know deep inside you Mr.Andtennile, you find very reassuring come out of the closet and admit it!
I, Hellfighter approve this message.

Glad you don't get to vote. Perhaps we can send Shrillery to Canada so she can be your leader. You are right in that Billy Boy is an expert with tight squeezes. Obama has yet to approve he's ready to lead a small college. On the positive side, a second Clinton presidency would get the U.S. much closer to communist China. They are her biggest financial supporters you know (Bill's too).

BTW sorry to put you in the 18%. Just wanted to point out that while you werre belittling Bush for 30% on another thread, the other side is at 18%.



This post has been edited by Capt. Andtennille: 09/14/07 10:29am

[Hellfighter]

......Someone like me, who thinks that we could have wrapped this up a long time ago by letting our soldiers fight rather than tying thier hands with unreasonable rules of engagement would say NO. Add it up and he ends up with a 25% approval rating in his handling of the war. 75% of the people disapprove, but for diametrically opposed reasons.

No-one doubts the US military can maul an opponent that actually dares stand up to fight them. But the enemy is invisible, hides low, retreats into the population, will come out when they choose.
Look at the recent Sunni chief turned friend who got easily picked off on his own turf yesterday as a message by al quaeda to Bush just before last nights Bush address. It's not all about what we wish we can do there..... reality is different
However.... its not all dependant on the military winning- whatever happens after a win-or withdrawal is what counts -Bush now wants out but is setting things up to get out after he's out of office.... you can imagine we'll be talking about the mess Bush passed onto future generations for decades to come...or can you?
Iraq's fate ultimately gets decided by the citizens putting aside their differences or not - if not the wolves come in from across the borders to assist whatever wolves are brawling within the borders[ various factions within Iraq]

Glad you don't get to vote. Perhaps we can send Shrillery to Canada so she can be your leader. You are right in that Billy Boy is an expert with tight squeezes. Obama has yet to approve he's ready to lead a small college. On the positive side, a second Clinton presidency would get the U.S. much closer to communist China. They are her biggest financial supporters you know (Bill's too)

On the contrary - it's just too bad you and other Bush addicts were allowed to vote -imo
-but I guess you have the right. But mercifully, at least most of his former voters have seen the light.....
I'm not her fan but I'd rather have Shrillery in power thinking about a mediated diplomacy rather than an air-headed-constitution quashing-belligerent-baffoon idea'd-guffed speeching- boob of a wad yanked on a neo-con leash who is needlessly costing lives and all the time firmly believing he's on a superior intellect than the citizens, generals, politicians who are all [74%] in mute bewiderment why he can't clue in to world reality on more than the rare occasion.

BTW sorry to put you in the 18%. Just wanted to point out that while you werre belittling Bush for 30% on another thread, the other side is at 18%.

Well I wouldn't say repub congress/senators are shining nobly in the eyes of the public/ popularity polls with all the scandals they're getting caught in lately. Informed as you are on these things, you know the ones.....

......On the positive side, a second Clinton presidency would get the U.S. much closer to communist China. They are her biggest financial supporters you know (Bill's too)

Well let's see, speaking of dirty money trails -who are the amongst biggest financial gainers in the Iraq war.... who has chums with money trails to lucrative ongoing contracts in Iraq?



This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 09/14/07 12:16pm