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[Barkmann]

I know wiki is a good site for infor on ww2, but does anyone here [i know some of you know ur ww2 history] know of a good ww2 website where i can get detail infor on battle plans, unit details, and photos of maps?

I need it for something im working on.

Anyhelp be great.

[Barkmann]

OK heres the map done.

Just remember i can only do so much with what i got to work with in game.

I did my best to make it look like Arnhem, but well you see, it sucks that the game doesnt have better bridges to pick from. Now i just need MOD to install his copy of Combat Mission 3 and we can start the battle, to see how things will work out.



HF, i read that the brits had 6pd guns and 17pd guns in arnhem is this true?

I can see the 6pd guns but the 17pd guns?



This post has been edited by Barkmann: 10/14/07 4:22pm

[Hellfighter]

OK heres the map done.

Just remember i can only do so much with what i got to work with in game.

I did my best to make it look like Arnhem, but well you see, it sucks that the game doesnt have better bridges to pick from. Now i just need MOD to install his copy of Combat Mission 3 and we can start the battle, to see how things will work out.



HF, i read that the brits had 6pd guns and 17pd guns in arnhem is this true?

I can see the 6pd guns but the 17pd guns?

Very nice work Bark! But the woods maybe a bit too big- but I'm not sure what scale you're working on -but if its a big scale then there was indeed that woods/open terrain area where you have it now.

I added a bunch of new links below. Brits had 6pdr AT guns one or two [looks like one though] very near the bridge. From what else I read in memoirs, there were a few [well at least 1 ] AT guns in Arnhem hidden around/unable to get to the bridge section.
But no 17 pdrs in Arnhem city as far as I knowl.
Paras in Arnhem had lots of light+medium mortars too. Also remember there were several Brit. airborne companies to the west of the bridgehead in Arnhem trying fight there way to join up at the bridge - and later on trying to get back to Oosterbeek base.

The Howitzer units/ field artillery units/ 17 pdrs of the Airborne were at Oosterbeek providing fire support at the bridge. Apparently too, defenders at the bridge had radios working to get in touch with the main body at Oosterbeek to have them fire in air-burst shells on the recce unit attacking the bridge [18th Sep] - a fact not shown in the movie 'bridge too far'.
30 Corps provides [off board] tremendous heavy arty support to Oosterbeek after Sep 21 [I think that date]
Details are in the links below. I added a few more links- namely one about a canadian engineer unit taking part in the 'Garden'/ground part of the operation that provided the boats for that first river crossing of the Rhine by the Allies [a portion of a reinforcing battalion from 43rd Div. into Oosterbeek perimeter].

arty links;
http://www.1stairlandingantitankbattery.com/
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Bridg...rketGarden.html
http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/printthr...&perpage=40

excerpt from a book reviewer ;
Arnhem 1944: The Airborne Battle
By R. A Forczyk (Laurel, MD USA) - See all my reviews
(TOP 500 REVIEWER) (REAL NAME)
This book represents another great effort by Martin Middlebrook. At first, one might ask why another book on Operation Market-Garden is necessary. The answer is that Middlebrook focus just on the actions of the units at Arnhem, ignoring the US airborne divisions further south and the advance of 30th Corps. The result is an account that presents far more detail than most accounts of the Arnhem fighting, which tend to focus mainly on Lieutenant Colonel Frost's battalion at Arnhem bridge.
Middlebrook begins his account with an in-depth description of the British 1st Airborne Division that covers every battalion and subordinate unit in detail. Readers will learn what every key unit, including the oft-neglected support units, could contribute to the battle. I was surprised to learn for example, just how many anti-tank guns that the British took to Arnhem: 52 six-pounders (57mm) and 16 seventeen-pounders (76mm). Most accounts of the battle do not mention the seventeen pounders, which gave the British a decent anti-tank weapon against even the heavier German tanks in the vicinity.

other nice short write-ups;
http://www.legionmagazine.com/features/can...story/00-09.asp
http://www.warmuseums.nl/gal/029gal.htm
http://home.wanadoo.nl/cclinks/abtf/monday~1.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/50/a3220750.shtml

I added a 2 more map attachments too- down below.





This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/15/07 8:40am