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Cpt. Snot Rocket
post 12/13/07 8:07pm
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What is the coincidence that both Mars and the earth are showing an increase in surface temperature at the same time? Maybe it has something to do with nature, or solar waves from the sun? Maybe more research is needed here afterall?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece



Or maybe there is a Martian invasion fleet taking off for earth right now!



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post 12/18/07 11:18am
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Here is a link from an astronomer's web site that debunks the "other planets are warming up crap.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/04...-solar-induced/


There's a meme going around the internets and in the MSM that Earth is not alone in global warming: other planets, according to this story, are experiencing it too.

The usual crowd, along with many others, are taking this idea and running with it, saying that if other planets are warming up, obviously the warming on Earth is not man-made. But there's a small problem with this: it's wrong (for a more detailed analysis of this, see my blog post at Bad Astronomy).

The idea is that evidence shows that Mars, Jupiter, Neptune's moon Triton, and even tiny, distant Pluto are warming up. The only thing these objects have in common is the Sun-- so therefore the Sun must be the culprit, and we -- the polluting, self-absorbed humans -- are off the hook.

However, as an astronomer and a skeptic, I did something most ditto-heads don't do: I actually did some research. What I found is that first of all, the evidence that Mars is warming up is tentative; basically, the southern ice cap appears to be shrinking, and along with other evidence this indicates that there is some sort of climate change going on. However, the change may very well be local, confined to the southern region. Plus, we already know that other factors, like the shape of the orbit of Mars, contribute to climate change there. Looking to the Sun as the source of this is unwarranted.

The claim about Jupiter warming is simply wrong. There are localized places where gas from deep in the atmosphere (where it's warmer) is bubbling up, but this is again a localized effect, and not an indication of global change. Jupiter's atmosphere is a very weird, turbulent place, and honestly we don't understand it all that well. Calling this jovian global warming is premature at best.

Triton is entering its summer season, and due to the peculiar orbit it has, this summer will be a particularly extreme one. If it's warming there, it's a seasonal change, and expected.

And as for far, wee Pluto, it's so far out that if any warming there were from the Sun warming up, the Earth, which is much closer to the Sun, would be roasted. Since the effects of GW here on Earth are subtle, it's safe to ignore Pluto.





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Cpt. Snot Rocket   Climate change hits Mars!!   12/13/07 8:07pm
Shred and Burn   Vinny, did you see that now they are saying the Ar...   12/13/07 10:38pm
Barkmann   and pigs are starting to fly   12/13/07 10:44pm
Genocide Junkie   It's our fault. Because we are increasing the ...   12/14/07 12:46am
THE Mechanic   What is the coincidence that both Mars and the ea...   12/14/07 1:11am
T/A6Pak   I wonder if this is going to cause a decrease in t...   12/14/07 9:25am
Blitz   Here is some light reading... http://www.business...   12/14/07 4:14pm
Genocide Junkie   One thing that has always given me the biggest kic...   12/14/07 4:52pm
Blitz   What always makes me laugh is that people think th...   12/14/07 6:20pm
THE Mechanic   One thing that has always given me the biggest ki...   12/14/07 10:15pm
M@ster of Dis@ster   One thing that has always given me the biggest k...   12/18/07 11:33am
Cpt. Snot Rocket   The issue isn't whether planets go through cl...   12/18/07 12:16pm
Capt. Andtennille   I sorta look at it like this..Why do you think t...   12/18/07 11:34am
Blitz   "When the chips are down I think democracy is...   12/18/07 9:20am
Midnight Rambler   Here is a link from an astronomer's web site t...   12/18/07 11:18am
Midnight Rambler   The self published book you are citing was written...   12/18/07 1:53pm
Blitz   Midnight Rambler, The point of me dropping all of...   12/18/07 5:58pm
Cpt. Snot Rocket   Thanks Blitz. Great post. At least their are few o...   12/18/07 7:25pm
Midnight Rambler   So your bottom line is that you don't want to ...   12/18/07 7:47pm
Spectre   The True Reason For The Ice Caps Melting Yes I wi...   12/18/07 8:15pm
Genocide Junkie   I say we should keep raping the Earth all we want....   12/18/07 10:08pm
Blitz   Good Point Spectre. When is enough....enough. At ...   12/18/07 10:25pm
HammaTime   I've shown a ton of links and proven that the...   12/19/07 12:10am
Midnight Rambler   With a global average temperature that was three-t...   12/19/07 10:25am
Cpt. Snot Rocket   What is the agenda of the thousands of scientists...   12/19/07 11:52am
Midnight Rambler   As I pointed out yesterday Robert Felix is a forme...   12/19/07 7:52pm
Cpt. Snot Rocket   As I pointed out yesterday Robert Felix is a for...   12/22/07 12:07pm
HammaTime   Good points, Vinny, but do you have any more recen...   12/22/07 1:13pm
Genocide Junkie   I liked the following bit from this link (apparent...   12/19/07 1:31am
Blitz   Hamma, I read the article, and I'm fully awar...   12/19/07 10:51pm
PFC Mustangman   Here's something thats going to do some damage...   12/21/07 6:28pm
Cpt. Snot Rocket   Unbelievable! I just spent an hour in replying...   12/22/07 9:14pm
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UNDEAD 1   thing that worries me is that giant crack in antar...   04/09/08 10:31pm
Cpt.Canuck   Here's a new(ish) video from Al Gore and clima...   04/10/08 7:26am
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Blitz   Good links HammaTime, I was searching for somethi...   04/10/08 8:57pm
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Shred   I live in Maine. Just down the road from Hamma...   04/10/08 11:45pm
HammaTime   I want as much global warming as I can get. Am...   04/11/08 9:14am
Hellfighter   However....... Most places across the length of Ca...   04/11/08 10:47am
HammaTime   However....... Most places across the length of C...   04/11/08 3:12pm
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HammaTime   BWAHHHHHA HAHAHA!! :hysterical: Oh, Bli...   10/01/08 10:31pm
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HammaTime   Yes it is a blog by high and important scientists...   10/02/08 11:23pm
Robert   I read a story a few days ago which stated the 200...   10/02/08 10:31pm
Blitz   I don't believe that a scientistwould gin up t...   10/03/08 5:52am
HammaTime   My only tought is that [b]if the ICPP's main ...   10/03/08 8:53am
Blitz   As for your claim that there are "huge ties ...   10/03/08 11:23am
HammaTime   Wow, now that is spectacularly beautiful! I h...   10/03/08 11:44am
HammaTime   ABC news reports that Arctic sea ice has hit a rec...   10/04/08 12:02am
Blitz   http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ Perhaps the mo...   10/04/08 12:39pm
HammaTime   From the report you linked to above: NSIDC Senior...   10/04/08 3:19pm
Blitz   I was not claiming that cloudy and colder seasons ...   10/04/08 4:45pm
HammaTime   Okay, a couple of quick points. The ABC article...   10/04/08 10:38pm
Blitz   It sure is getting exciting..... http://i29.photo...   12/01/09 5:24pm
Shred   The only planet I care about is Uranus.   12/07/09 9:45pm


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