| UNDEAD 1 |
12/17/07 9:06pm
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Major General ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 2753 Joined: January 17th 2006 Member No.: 1540 Xfire: UNDEADJAMES |
im split on this one,something tells me our gov will take advantage of this down the road.
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| T/A6Pak |
12/18/07 9:23am
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![]() Major General ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 3274 Joined: January 14th 2006 Member No.: 1535 |
Wow, that is scary.. Interception of telecommunications without a warrant!! This means that any communication you have has a chance to be intercepted. I'm not up to date on all the facts on this bill. But I know in Canada, we need a warrant. If you have enough solid information, a warrant is easy to get. Why are these communication compainies doing the spying.. that should be done by intelligence units.
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| Cpt. Snot Rocket |
12/18/07 11:56am
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Colonel ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 1304 Joined: February 26th 2006 From: South Bend, IN Member No.: 1615 |
Must be nice being Canadian and not a target of international terrorist conspiracies hell bent on the destruction of your country and people. Yes, I know there are terrorist in Canada, but you have to admit that Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, and others, are not screaming for the destruction of Canada.
Warrants are often too little too late when trying to root out terrorist cells within ones borders. These actions are consistant when a country is at war. Similar things where done by Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War and as well as during WWI and WWII. The US government does not have an unlimited capacity to record and investigate every single person electronic/phone messaging. They are focused on known or suspected terrorist activities/people. Am I wholy confortable about this, no. I am certainly concerned about its use. But, I realize we are at war with an enemy that is in hiding. The US has not had a attack on our soil since 9/11, but there have been over 200 plots stopped partly because of the efforts to monitor messages. When a nuclear bomb goes off in New York, the last thing anyone will care about is that the goverment was monitoring messages without a warrant. In fact, the public will demand that they should have done more to stop the plot. And you know I'm right. Let's say that Hellfighter was calling his drug runner in Florida arranging the next shipment of heroin. The US goverment, picks up on this. However, they cannot make an arrest of anyone, because the evidence would not have been obtained properly. Now, of course, they would be on too Hellfighter and his supplier and may begin to follow him and get further warrant's, ect., and then make an arrest based on the new evidence. Hellfighter would argue that it is unfair that the goverment knew about his drug dealing. But Hellfighter should not being doing illegal activities anyway. So I could care less. Regardless, I feel it is important that the telecommincations companies be freely able to work with the goverment during times of war without penalties of "civil rights" lawsuits. If not, how are we ever going to monitor terrorists? How are we going to stop the next 9/11? -------------------- |
UNDEAD 1 wondering everyones thoughts on this 12/17/07 9:06pm
Genocide Junkie I hope so. Heaven forbid they hear me making dinne... 12/17/07 11:26pm
Hellfighter Well my thoughts on this are easy . I've been ... 12/18/07 8:02am

Hellfighter Must be nice being Canadian and not a target of i... 12/18/07 9:39pm
HammaTime I remember when Echelon first came to light in the... 12/18/07 12:02pm
Midnight Rambler Warrants are often too little too late when trying... 12/18/07 1:32pm
T/A6Pak So they can listen to any conversation to determin... 12/18/07 5:49pm
Cpt. Snot Rocket First, No offense to my Canadian friends!... 12/18/07 7:41pm
Midnight Rambler Can't argue against your fantasies Capt. 12/18/07 7:49pm
Genocide Junkie Can't argue against your fantasies Capt.
It... 12/19/07 4:23am
Hellfighter [quote name='Midnight Rambler' post='167355' date... 12/19/07 7:12am
Cpt. Snot Rocket
[color=#ffff99]" from Bush and cronies, Mr.... 12/19/07 10:20am
Hellfighter [quote name='Hellfighter' post='167387' date='12/... 12/19/07 11:08am
Cpt. Snot Rocket [quote name='Hellfighter' post='167387' date='12... 12/19/07 12:14pm
Hellfighter .......
I did not intentionally change any spelli... 12/19/07 12:22pm
Hellfighter ..................
Hellfighter - I am curious to ... 12/19/07 4:06pm
HammaTime
While I thought Clintons interaction with Miss Le... 12/19/07 10:53pm
Keystone Two-Eight You know, the more I read arguments like this, the... 12/21/07 8:33am
Hellfighter You know, the more I read arguments like this, th... 12/23/07 6:38am
T/A6Pak Pearl Harbour was terrorism in my opinion.. many c... 12/18/07 11:59pm
Keystone Two-Eight im split on this one,
So am I, because on the ... 12/19/07 1:42am
UNDEAD 1 im split because for once i agree with snot but at... 12/19/07 3:43am
T/A6Pak Accountability is no longer in place. When there ... 12/19/07 7:38am
steel Surveillance to protect the US is not the sticking... 12/19/07 8:51am
HammaTime
Surveillance to protect the US is not the stickin... 12/19/07 10:56am
steel Snot, did you read everything on that page of the ... 12/19/07 11:30am
Ghost Child We know that terrorist plots have been foiled due ... 12/19/07 2:31pm
T/A6Pak Capt. Snot Rocket, you are just agreeing to preven... 12/19/07 6:40pm
PFC Mustangman Here's a little fuel to the fire.What about th... 12/19/07 10:37pm
PFC Mustangman Well while there at it might as well satellite you... 12/21/07 6:37pm
PFC Mustangman Uh Oh! found another one. Big Brother is no... 12/22/07 7:11pm
Hellfighter Lol- and after all our constructive criticisms and... 01/14/08 7:12am![]() ![]() |
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