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post 01/24/08 9:01am
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Bush, before:

“I believe it is the job of a President to confront problems, not pass them on to future Presidents and future generations.”

Bush, now:

The White House confirmed Wednesday that its new budget next month will not request a full year’s funding for the war in Iraq, leaving the next president and Congress to confront major cost questions soon after taking office in 2009.





Now the republicans are trying to tell us that Bush isn't a "real" conservative. He's not a Reagan conservative. Give me a break. He was the republican conservative wet dream when he was running the first time. When the second election rolled around everyone could see he was a disaster but the conservatives backed him anyway.


You can say what you want but Reagan never balanced a budget. Never even came close. Bush hasn't even tried. I do remember Clinton doing it. No, the republican congress didn't do it for him. If you do a little research you find that he had to shut down the government to force the republican congress to go along with a balanced budget.

Will your taxes go up with a Democrat in office? Yes. Becuase no matter who is elected the chickens are coming home to roost and you can't pay the bills by cutting your income (taxes).




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Robert
post 01/28/08 6:14pm
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I really expected a better replied than
"It doesn't matter he still lied"
Or
"Well France said"


Everyone talks about what a dummy Bush is but apparently he is genius.
1) He was able to pull off secretly manipulating over a dozen intelligence agencies without leaving a single piece of evidence.
2) Was able to manipulate intelligence agencies of several other countries.
3) 2 years before even becoming president he was able to force the then current president and several members of congress especially those who sat on the intelligence sub-committees to begin laying the ground work for a case of WMD's in IRAQ.
4) Also while only the governor of Texas, was secretly in control of IRAQ to the point that Saddam would never fully allow the inspectors access.
5) Able to make 935 statements, where not a single statement could latter be shown to have been KNOWINGLY made contrary to the information he had at the time the statement was made.


It cracks me up people continue to fall back on
"Bush Lied"
Sure you can always find dissenting opinions and say "he should have listened to them"
That could be said in any situation.
We're talking vast majority versus small minority


I may as well go through a civics lesson while we're at it.
I guess we could argue the semantics and split hairs all day, so to prevent that we'll just call this my opinion.
The President is not the end all be all of America.
Singularly, yes
As a branch of government, then I would say Congress.
Bush is the Commander and Chief of the Military, yet he cannot declare war, that is the lone ability of congress. He has the right under the "War Powers Act" to make limited use of the military without congressional approval but even then, he must gain congressional approval within 90 days after introducing troops into hostilities. Also along the same lines, it requires congress to fund any military action.
Guess we'll ignore all that, an stick with it's all Bush's Fault.
It's worked out really well so far.


I've no problem with someone being against what happen in Iraq.
My issue is....
Chanting "Bush Lied" does little to solve the problem
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post 01/30/08 9:20pm
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QUOTE(Robert @ 01/28/08 6:14pm) *

Guess we'll ignore all that, an stick with it's all Bush's Fault.
It's worked out really well so far.


Hey Robert good to see you... for some reason I didn't catch onto your threads of late tongue.gif

If Bush/admin makes the rushed deliberately inaccurate case for war it's fair to say it's his fault.
Without that case no war... there'd be alot of beliefs sadam was making a nukes program and CIA still trying to figure out fact from fiction... but there would be no war.
What actually has worked out well so far with 200,000 confirmed dead. Ethnic cleansing of neighbourhoods. I hope there's peace there but the US General's there are saying everything is still balanced on the edge of a sword - we still have no clue of what will happen there for many years to come.


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