Climate change hits Mars!!, What? No humans on mars! How can this be? Options

[Cpt. Snot Rocket]

What is the coincidence that both Mars and the earth are showing an increase in surface temperature at the same time? Maybe it has something to do with nature, or solar waves from the sun? Maybe more research is needed here afterall?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece



Or maybe there is a Martian invasion fleet taking off for earth right now!

[Blitz]

Good links HammaTime,
I was searching for something else and it lead me to that link, I watched it but did no research it further in my rush.... I agree that the person sounds chicken shit to me to stand by his beliefs and not admit to being wrong.

The isteresting thing about this is it is a live debate, there are scientists on both sides throwing facts all about. I do not like hearing that all debate is closed which I am starting to hear more and more.

Some are bought and paid for on both sides. What concerns me is the LACK of honest debate in the media in genearal about this issue. Both sides are left scurring to the interet to find facts and opinions presented by both sides and the truth about what will happen is conjecture and hypothetical guess.
It will never be known until it has happened.

Al Gore is investing 300 million (from who???) to make global warming a topic on the presidential debates, has testified before congress, and is pushing this issue. He had 8 years to make this a top priority, but now it is the utmost crisis?

The thing that scares me most is the cap and trade (carbon credit) tax concepts that will be the outcome without honest debate.
Watch the John Kerry / Newt Gingrich debate.. There are solutions rather than HUGE government / UN control. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7844874520095835803

The point of the thread re-start and the link to the book was that the author suggested that he had unbiased, experts in their fields that were against conclusive evidence about man made global warming. As I said originally I had not read it, but the amazon thread lists about 15 scientists that are discussed in the book and their backgrounds.
From the interview the author stated that he is a staunch environmentalist and activist. He mentioned that he believed fully the man made global warming theory and set out to prove that there were no credable scientists that were against it. his research shocked him and he wrote the book to help re-open the debate.

From the "man made" deniers point of view if there are credable scientists that have alternative hypothises and show errors in the original data that everyone trumpets as fact then the debate should still be open.

I found this old link about some deniers and their background, maybe they all have been proven as lapdogs for big oil, or maybe they just look at the science from their own perspective and not a foregone conclusion and look for the science to justify their pre-concieved notions.
It's a 10 part series
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=...0bed2f6&k=0

Lastly HammaTime , this has been a great topic and you have brought a lot of data to be sifted thru and I wish this is what I would see in my nightly news and in the paper rather than another topic on ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1998570/posts
Or Ted Turner going NUTZ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LZuC1xLHXRc&feature=related