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post 05/01/08 8:04pm
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So here's the latest regarding 'mission accomplished'....
Can the lies by the Bush admin get more nauseating - I'm sure they can....
Look at this one -explaining away what 'Mission Accomplished' really meant.
Why do these Bush croney/minions/goons think that when they spew out their rubbish in pathetic lies that the majority of Americans/the world think like gullable numbskulled neocons and war-mongerors;
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post 05/03/08 8:47am
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Robert check out 00:58 of Mustang's clip.... there's nothing dubious in what Bush said on the aircraft carrier... in spite of what can be argued about what the banner meant, these are his words-
"And [in?] the battle of Iraq, the United States, and our Allies have prevailed"

More of the same of what I pointed out earlier.
Taken completely out of context.
Major combat operations have ended, And in the battle of Iraq, the United States, and our Allies have prevailed.
As in toppling the Iraq regime.
To me it seems rather depserate to cut down a 5 minute speech to a 10 second clip, for the purpose of impling something completely opposite of what was said in the speech.

Much the same as this
Condy Rice acting non-chalant in a post 9-11 Commission when referring to intel reports of 'Bin Laden planning to fly planes into buildings' just months before 9-11.
While reading just that implies one thing which is completely different than the truth.
These were routine intel briefs which also listed a dozen other possibilities and had not changed much in 10 years.
It also changes things a little when it's pointed out the intel briefs specifically listed hijacking of incoming international flights.
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post 05/03/08 1:40pm
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QUOTE(Robert @ 05/03/08 9:47am) *
Robert check out 00:58 of Mustang's clip.... there's nothing dubious in what Bush said on the aircraft carrier... in spite of what can be argued about what the banner meant, these are his words-
"And [in?] the battle of Iraq, the United States, and our Allies have prevailed"

More of the same of what I pointed out earlier.
Taken completely out of context.
Major combat operations have ended, And in the battle of Iraq, the United States, and our Allies have prevailed.
As in toppling the Iraq regime.
To me it seems rather depserate to cut down a 5 minute speech to a 10 second clip, for the purpose of impling something completely opposite of what was said in the speech.

Much the same as this
Condy Rice acting non-chalant in a post 9-11 Commission when referring to intel reports of 'Bin Laden planning to fly planes into buildings' just months before 9-11.
While reading just that implies one thing which is completely different than the truth.
These were routine intel briefs which also listed a dozen other possibilities and had not changed much in 10 years.
It also changes things a little when it's pointed out the intel briefs specifically listed hijacking of incoming international flights.



oook, well if Bush said "the battle of Iraq is over now onto winning the War in Iraq" I guess there'd be no dispute. Put in context of fighting non-insurgent units, the battle of Iraq was over way before when Baghdad fell. The rest of Sadam's irregular forces were scurrying northwards awaiting to be mopped up.....

Regarding the Condy thing, I was more referring to how she said it. You had to see it to know what I mean. It was the tone she used that was quite remarkable with such a loaded question asked of her about intel she/admin had; something similar to responding to a 'daily double' Jeopordy question she was guessing at... it was really that 'hazy' -obviously an effort on her part to play down the admin's boob-job in its starting months.
The other thing on that is the neocons screamed at how Clinton did nothing about getting Bin Laden- yet Bush with this intel AND routine reports for 10 years as you've pointed out DID nothing and STARTED nothing in the way of let's say rectifying Clinton's lax-ness.... with those reports, why didn't the Bush admin start ramping up airport security even as a 'just-in-case' precaution given the nature of kind of terrorist attacks they were reported as.


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