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Hellfighter
post 05/01/08 8:04pm
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So here's the latest regarding 'mission accomplished'....
Can the lies by the Bush admin get more nauseating - I'm sure they can....
Look at this one -explaining away what 'Mission Accomplished' really meant.
Why do these Bush croney/minions/goons think that when they spew out their rubbish in pathetic lies that the majority of Americans/the world think like gullable numbskulled neocons and war-mongerors;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tm9-cZ2s7i4&feature=related


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post 05/05/08 11:15am
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No defence is insurmountable - Rommels atlantic Wall breached in hours at all points in the D-day front....
Nothing is preventable.... but there's no rule to stop someone making an effort to take some noticeable measures at least when a strong threat is in the air- literally.
I can't find what defence Bush/cronies would not have had in heightening security at airports -historically this is a major 'battlefront' for terrorism.

Political correctness or not its our devotion to freedom and respecting people's rights that seperates us from becoming what we despise most in regimes like N.Korea, Iran, African dictatorships.....
While I agree borders are too 'holey', there should be limits to keep in mind regarding being careful to not have a jeckyl/Hyde society -ie, seeming peaceful and freedom loving and then slamming down on rights that the society's ancestors worked hard/fought for ensuring.
Taking these overt defensive measures leads to isolationism.... and its that what could've been the downfall of the USA vs. Fascism in WW2's start if it had not been compelled to act due to Pearl Harbour.
Too much high security in a society leads from one basic Right to another being squashed -and then secret police gain more powers, then more whackjobs get into powerful positions.... rules start getting more radical- and smug people who thought crackdown rules were applied only to 'undesirables' will at some point find themselves targeted by 'updated' rules by nutters in power taking things to more extremes.
.....and then people disappear and are incarcerated without trial [oh wait that's being done already-before you start on me with that tongue.gif keep in mind I have no compassion for terrorists caught in the act not seeing the light of day - I'm talking about 'suspects' ie, innocent people snatched away for interrogation right away because their name is on a terrorist watch list -> who's on that list -people like Nelson Mandela!!!!! but famous people on the list don't get hauled away for a nightmare trip ]

A true story;
An Iraqi friend told me a story about his friend in Iraq in beginning of Saddam regime. He was standing alone in an office stairwell one day deep in thought. The police picked him up some time later -and released him- someone had reported him for 'thinking'.... the informer and the police were suspicious that he had anti-government thoughts on his mind!!!
I say that so that we should keep in mind what we/society probably don't want to become. I think there's a difference between accomodating/respecting those with 'difficulties' and being politically correct to a fault. Up here in Canada multiculturalism used to be seen as a 'politically correct' idea decades ago. It's actually working out nowadays where people can be different while respecting laws basically made for everyone to follow without bending over backwards to one group over others/society in general.

So true, we in the West are more susceptible to attacks, but in my opinion if a pyscho [like terrorists] are determined to get you, they will..... The only thing helping us is Bum Laden's ego in wanting to strike with gigantic attacks and his shunning surely unstoppable small bombings ANYWHERE in the public domain.
imo, Our greatest ally is the international anti-terrorism networks -throwing up high border walls is one thing - but those 'hostile' countries we like frown upon do have agents and democracy sympathizers passing along valuable information to the West regarding plans for upcoming attacks.


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