Bush Admin Lying Machine coming apart, Be careful whose bed you choose to lie in McCain Options

[Hellfighter]

So here we go;
Straight from the source like never before;
One of Bush's own about to reveal the whole Bush Admin/neocon lying machine scheme-
No surprise really -but now its about to be officially 'explored'.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

some doubters may venture to say he's just selling a book - but he seems to be like Colin Powell and the Generals who criticized the Iraq war from its outset, a virtuous person who was slapped around by the neocon villains in the admin revealing the formerly deliberately obscured facts for themselves for everyone to judge-finally.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 05/28/08 9:16am

[Robert]

Don't hold your breath.....
The reality of the situation will probably never be dealt with because people are unable to look pass the stupid talking points.
Pretty much the exact same way you mention most people can't get past Osama not being a Muslim.
I'm willing to bet if you asked most people to list the 10 biggest failures of the bush administration, 80% of the people would list items so over simplified they would be pointless.
Here is a short list as an example of what I'm talking about.
No Bid contract - Actually there was a bid process in place prior to Iraq to come up with the plan to address the logistics of oil well fires if Saddam set fire to the oil fields the same way he did during the withdraw from Kuwait. To me it makes sense to have the people do it that came up with the approved plan and shown their ability to do it in the past.
Halliburton - How many times has their name been thrown out there.
The truth is they have been in the business of providing support to the US military since WWII, there is no big conspiracy here. At the senate request, the GAO has twice looked into the bid process and found no wrongdoing.
How many people now believe Halliburton is some evil company in some secret conspiracy involving Iraq.
I bet most of them would be surprised to learn the their profits doubled under Clinton not Bush.
Sure their overall revenues are higher now but their single biggest increase in profits was from contracts awarded during the Clinton Administration.
Chenny and his TIES to Halliburton
One small problem , he has no ties to them. He severed all financial ties to the company by selling all his stock in the company when he accepted the VP nomination. The only money he had yet to receive for the company was part of a 5 year payout of his last years salary. Which he setup in a trust to pay college tuition for low income students.
So the only financial tie to the company, he has no control over, will never see a penny of and all goes to charity.
Yet, people can;t stop talking about Cheehy's close ties to Halliburton and his war profiting.
Bush coerced the intel about Iraq an possible WMD's Two democratic ran senate sub-committees looked into that and neither one found any proof of it.
Bush and his ties to big oil
That one is so stupid I can only roll my eyes.

Here is what I see as the real problem.
Let's take Haliburton.
While I completely disagree with the common and oversimplified issues brought up concerning Haliburton, I by no means am saying they are clean of any wrong doing, just not the stupid and pointless rhetoric you hear about them.
How many senators have spoken out about the evil Haliburton as a way to attack the Bush Administration?
More than I can name.
Then the next question would be, how many have done anything by introducing legislation to prevent some of the accounting abuses Halliburton is actually responsible for?
That would be a big fat zero.
So Halliburton is great when it comes to an attack issue, but now worth their time an effort to do anything about prevent the same kinds of abuses they publicly accuse the company of.
Even worse is the "cost plus" feature in how they bill for services.
Sure it makes sense when it part of a critical job.
For normal non-critical functions it does nothing but creates unneeded expense for every service.
I would love to see legislation introduced to prevent or greatly limit "cost plus" billing and the financial abuses it allows by ANY company doing work for the government.


BTW I hope you were being sarcastic when you said selling the book for profit wasn't his agenda.
I would hate to think you were actually that gullible.
Also, I find it strange that every news station has defined this as a Anti-Bush book when the author himself says Bush's biggest problem was "terribly ill-served by his top advisers, especially those involved directly in national security.”
Goes on to say how Bush was deceived by Rowe and Libby.

I'm still amazed after everything that has gone wrong with Iraq and the Bush Administration in general, people still get stuck on these rather benign side issue's.