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post 05/28/08 9:11am
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So here we go;
Straight from the source like never before;
One of Bush's own about to reveal the whole Bush Admin/neocon lying machine scheme-
No surprise really -but now its about to be officially 'explored'.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

some doubters may venture to say he's just selling a book - but he seems to be like Colin Powell and the Generals who criticized the Iraq war from its outset, a virtuous person who was slapped around by the neocon villains in the admin revealing the formerly deliberately obscured facts for themselves for everyone to judge-finally.


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post 05/29/08 11:25pm
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I can't wait to check all my favorite political forums tomorrow to see how much his interview gets twisted.
You guys already know I'm not a big fan of Olbermann.
With that said, I can't believe how many times he tried to put words in McClellan's mouth while at the exact same time saying "I don't want to put words in your mouth".

As for the leaking of the NIE report.
Not near as damaging as people will try an make that out to be, if you think so then you must of missed these points during the interview.
1) McClellan "The president has the legal authority to declassify the NIE report"
Which isn't or shouldn't be news to anyone but people will try an make it out to something else.

2) Then there is this exchange...
Olbermann " On approving the release of the NIE report did bush in essence or legally okay the leaking of Valerie Plame CIA Identity?"
McClellan "I do not believe the president was in any way involved with the leaking of her identity"
I'm willing to bet big buck's that line will be skipped over every time this interview is discussed.

3) Olbermann list dozens of what he calls Bush's failures.
What did McClellan say he though was Bush's biggest failure?
"He reached across to democrats as Governor but failed to do so as President"
Again he didn't blame Bush, but the "Partisan Politics of Washington"

Overall, if you remove Olbermann near constant attempts to put words in his mouth or framing his questions to get the answers he wanted.
I didn't really see the interview as all that damaging to Bush.
I counted 6 separate times where McClellan pointed to the problem as "Washington Politics"
I honestly expected at least one big reveal during the interview, I didn't see any.
I lost track of how many times Olbermann asked him about something and McClellan he didn't know anything about that.

Does everyone remember When Clark did his book?
Does everyone remember how his story changed from what he said on the talk circuit while trying to sell his book and what was said when he was put under oath at the 9-11 commission?
I will be very curious to see if McClellan changes any of his story if he's goes under oath.
Which may happen since the Democratic Congressman from Florida has just called for McClellan to testify under oath before the House Judiciary Committee.
With that in mind, how did McClellan reply when Olbermann asked about going before Congress?
He saw no need or any interest in doing so as he's already said what he had to say.


If anyone thought this book was going to be a smoking gun.
Sorry, but so far it's firing blanks.
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post 05/30/08 6:12am
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QUOTE(Robert @ 05/30/08 12:25am) *
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With that said, I can't believe how many times he tried to put words in McClellan's mouth while at the exact same time saying "I don't want to put words in your mouth".
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I caught parts of the show and yes from what I saw Keith O' was doing alot of his typical spin on 'channeling' his own views onto McClellan.
But - give McClellan credit for sticking to his own obvious efforts in 'not going there' and not allowing himself into being twisted into a mere propoganda tool on the show. -those 'don't knows' were true words spoken and reflects an honest character even under somewhat conditions of duress - 1st primetime appearance on tv explaining his radical turnaround with an overbearing/demanding host [and he's [keith O'] a physically big-daunting guy too].
He spoke his truth humbly and persuasively at his own tempo - it all gives overwhelming credence to the sincerity of the 'other' earnest reasons why he wrote the book.
The book wasn't about being a smoking gun.... it just substantiated what nearly everyone believed for years [even most of the 25% who stand with the Bush admin but are in denial]- up until now the Bush Lying Machine proved to be expert firefighters in smothering their lies with blankets of lies to the extent people probing for the truth simply got fed up with the overwhelming task of eeking out the proof of the truth.
Well that's all over now. The Iraq Crusade, and the neocon Backstabber/namecaller Club has been revealed as fact by an honest former insider.


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Hellfighter   Bush Admin Lying Machine coming apart   05/28/08 9:11am
Robert   some doubters may venture to say he's[i] just...   05/28/08 1:14pm
Hellfighter   some doubters may venture to say he's[i] jus...   05/28/08 4:20pm
Robert   Don't hold your breath..... The reality of the...   05/28/08 9:39pm
Hellfighter   I'm not sure why having another view relegates...   05/29/08 6:14am
pezking   Well, so far the White House is spinning this as ...   05/29/08 8:28am
Hellfighter   ........I do agree that it could partially be a g...   05/29/08 2:48pm
HammaTime   Did anyone else catch the amazing 50 minute interv...   05/29/08 9:58pm
Shred   Druid for President.   05/29/08 9:34am
HammaTime   News clipping: One former Bush aide, however, is ...   05/29/08 2:10pm
Robert   I can't wait to check all my favorite politica...   05/29/08 11:25pm
whodat   If anyone thought this book was going to be a smo...   05/30/08 2:06am
Hellfighter   ......... With that said, I can't believe how ...   05/30/08 6:12am
Robert   I don't know how you got that form the intervi...   05/30/08 7:47am
HammaTime   Wow, Robert, where can I get a pair of those rose ...   05/30/08 9:18am
Robert   I thought his remarks about McCain were just as po...   05/30/08 11:28am
Hellfighter   Spreading democracy is fine by me... But when givi...   05/30/08 6:30pm
Robert   "Russia was breaking apart at the seams for f...   05/30/08 9:15pm
Robert   In reading back thru my post I realize I failed to...   05/30/08 10:42pm
Hellfighter   I think you're mixing apples with oranges. Fi...   05/31/08 6:45pm
Robert   LOL as I was typing could of / would of / should ...   06/01/08 10:14pm
Hellfighter   LOL as I was typing could of / would of / should...   06/02/08 6:35am
HammaTime   McClellan goes as far as to say "Bush never ...   06/02/08 7:28am
Hellfighter   McClellan goes as far as to say "Bush never...   06/02/08 12:01pm
Robert   When I said McClellan wrote in his opinion Bush ne...   06/03/08 10:37pm
Hellfighter   ........... My Opinion was summed up very well by...   06/04/08 6:28am


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