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05/28/08 9:11am
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Major General ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 2111 Joined: November 15th 2005 From: Quebec, Canada Member No.: 1424 Xfire: hellfighter1x |
So here we go;
Straight from the source like never before; One of Bush's own about to reveal the whole Bush Admin/neocon lying machine scheme- No surprise really -but now its about to be officially 'explored'. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html some doubters may venture to say he's just selling a book - but he seems to be like Colin Powell and the Generals who criticized the Iraq war from its outset, a virtuous person who was slapped around by the neocon villains in the admin revealing the formerly deliberately obscured facts for themselves for everyone to judge-finally. This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 05/28/08 9:16am -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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05/30/08 6:30pm
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Major General ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 2111 Joined: November 15th 2005 From: Quebec, Canada Member No.: 1424 Xfire: hellfighter1x |
Spreading democracy is fine by me...
But when giving a case for war before the world have the guts to say that; giving a manufacured cunniving reason is a disgusting scheme when it involves the destruction of many lives. Tell the soldiers you're sending them to spread democracy Imperialism style because the public and political process is 100% behind such an effort..... If a President/admin is lying his/herway into a war - with 'spread of democracy' as a hopeful by-product of an idealistic Crusade that numbskull is a total fraud.... he tricked people into giving their lives for his neocon crew's scheme. That's the point.... The sell for war was about 'imminent mushroom clouds' NOT to spread democracy nor to get rid of the big bad wolf. Claiming WMDs in Iraq is not proof wmds exist -therefore where is the credible threat of imminent mushroom clouds- let alone as proof to go to war- That's why NOBODY pushed a button to go to war based on 'claims' - neither did Bush push that button - at the prodding of his Crusader chums he twisted the reports deliberately to push for a war for other unveiled reasons. Remind me its ok to plead with firefighters to run into a flaming building to bring out a baby wrapped in a blanket in a closet when really its a bundled up stash of jewelry,passport,wallet ie,-important 'stuff'; but not certainly worth anyones ones life for.... in particular lying to them about it. What other options did Japan, Germany, Russia have but to yield to democracy- Japan and Germany were gutted as nations at wars end - would the Allies have allowed anything but a democracy to be set-up in these former warlike-military tradition nations??? These beaten down nations had no economy or capability to exist without staring at oblivion unless they got with the democracy program and did like the Romans when in Rome/world community rebuilding after global war. Russia was breaking apart at the seams for financial reasons -they had to accept democracy or else come to ruin themselves -furthermore their citizens throughout the Soviet block CHOSE democracy themselves... no armies marched into their nations/states and told them to 'choose it'. "Support the troops" / "You have no patriotism if you don't like our neocon ideals" were the battlecries from this Prez -amongst others.... all were shallow blasts of hot air -> Soldiers definitely want to see people around the world enjoy democracy rather than suffering under extremist regimes; but these soldiers are doing 3 or 4 tours /suicide rates at record highs / proposed G.I Bill to help vets out stalled by McCain. What's the Iraqi army of 350,000+ doing now -and with the $2 billion its getting from the admin. The difference between Clarke and McClellan and their book's being published; NONE -I'm not sure why there's a tendency to focus on what a book was written for when these books contents are what packs the punch in revealing truths that cannot be disputed. Who's calling McClellan a liar?!! nope- if they [the 'club' at the Whitehouse] can't do that they'll just stomp their feet with only bloated indignation about the tattle-taler. -both books reveal the whole crud of the neocon machine at its nasty work from the inside- with bottom line facts about this admin's reckless playbook all laid out for all eternity to mull through with astonished repulsion. This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 05/30/08 7:00pm -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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