Bush Admin Lying Machine coming apart, Be careful whose bed you choose to lie in McCain Options

[Hellfighter]

So here we go;
Straight from the source like never before;
One of Bush's own about to reveal the whole Bush Admin/neocon lying machine scheme-
No surprise really -but now its about to be officially 'explored'.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

some doubters may venture to say he's just selling a book - but he seems to be like Colin Powell and the Generals who criticized the Iraq war from its outset, a virtuous person who was slapped around by the neocon villains in the admin revealing the formerly deliberately obscured facts for themselves for everyone to judge-finally.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 05/28/08 9:16am

[Robert]

"Russia was breaking apart at the seams for financial reasons -they had to accept democracy or else come to ruin themselves -furthermore their citizens throughout the Soviet block CHOSE democracy themselves... no armies marched into their nations/states and told them to 'choose it'."
That's simply the opposite side of the coin, did you hear of the cold war?
How many nations didn't fall to communism because the US militarywas ready an prepared to stand in their way.
Speaking of Russia brings up another interesting point.
Some people wanting to portray Bush as some traitor for leaking classified materials.
Do they view JFK in the same light.
Before consulting any intelligence community, JFK allowed the release of all know intel about the missile bases in Cuba, live before the whole UN.
I don't see any historical reference to JFK being a leaker.
Concerning WMD's, I wonder how many people realize Castro asked Khrushchev for the ability to launch a preemptive nuclear strike against the USA.
Yet only 40 years latter, Micheal Moore wanted Castro to be his guest at the Oscars so he could deliver his acceptance speech.
Funny how much 40 years changes things.

I can't possible make this any simpler.
I would say 90% of the public opinion concerning Bush and Iraq are based on unsubstantiated accusations and more spin then I've seen, maybe in my lifetime.
While his opponents make every charge from.....
Lying
Misleading
Warmonger
War profiteer
I have yet to see anyone make an honest case for any of them.
What I see is a HUGE mistake based mostly on "Faulty Intelligence"
If there was any verifiable proof to support all the rampant accusations, you would have seen impeachment proceedings in congress long before now.
Congress may or may not have gotten enough votes for conviction but I honestly believe we would have seen him tried by now.
Now the likely reply will be
"Bush should have been super duper sure of the intelligence before going to war."
My only reply would be
Duh...
In a perfect world that would have been the case.
Unfortunately this isn't a perfect world.
The decision to invade Iraq was Based on the available intel at the time.
Intelligence which was doubtful to be improved or changed much prior to an invasion which put boots on the ground.
Keep in mind, the U.N. in 12 years and 17 U.N. resolutions had failed to make progress or ensure Iraq fully complied.
Prior to 9-11, America was satisfied with a policy of confinement when it came to Saddam and Iraq.
After 9-11, I think it would have been short sighted and foolish to continue a policy based only on confinement.
I asked this same question almost 4 years ago in another topic about Iraq
"Depending on who's estimate you use, Iraq has either the 2nd or 3rd largest oil reserve in the world, which could easy supply Saddam with tens of billions of dollars per year to do with what he wants. Do you really think it's in yours, mine or the worlds overall best interest to have an aggressive risk-taking dictator who has attacked four countries, has a long history of actively pursuing chemical an biological weapons. Weapons which he even used against his own people. Has professed a desire to harm the United States and its allies with near limitless funds in charge of a country? Maybe it's just me but I don't think so."
Regardless of all the unfounded accusation and conspiracy theorist about why we went to Iraq.
To me it was the right decision based on the information available at the time.
Sure we NOW know it was the wrong thing to do, so it's really to bad none of these Monday morning quarterbacks can jump in their time machine to let Bush and the rest of America know Iraq didn't have any WMD's., nor did it pose a threat to America.
Wow, it really is true, hindsight is 20/20