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post 08/29/08 7:40pm
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Just wanted to point out I called Palin as VP over 4 months ago, for all the same reasons the decision was made now.
If McCain wins, I honestly believe this will be what puts him over the top.

Also you couldn't ask for better timing to make this announcement.
The DNC convention ended last night with a huge bang an there's not a single leading news story about it.
The news is 100% about Palin as VP.
Talk about stealing someones thunder.

I hope they win an McCain dies the next day.
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Blitz
post 09/05/08 9:47pm
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When politicians rob (tax) Peter to pay (entitelments) Paul, they can always count on unwavering support from Paul!

This country is VERY close to that exacte scenerio... I don't remember the exact figures (and If I was not drinking i'd look them up), but I believe the bottom 40% pay no federal income tax at all. If the lliberals have their way and can push it up even higher they will never be out of power.

A great outcome for the 10% that will switch to the tax free side. Not so great for the rest.
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post 09/06/08 2:29pm
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Blitz, opposition to taxation is a wonderful topic. However, to keep things above board, we should really spend a little bit of time familiarizing ourselves with reality.

We could start with the most basic of research by a simple click to check out the basic Wiki page on income tax.

Here we see that the bottom bracket has to pay 10% on the income they earn. You are in that bottom bracket if you are single and earn $8,025 or less. If you find yourself in that bracket, God help you, but you still have to fork over ten percent of your income, and of course, you are still hit with payroll tax.

Obviously, this isn't the whole story, after the personal exemption and standard deduction, that 10% on income probably drops to about 4%, but scroll down the page and take a look at the history of income tax rates. You'd have to go back to the post-depression era of 1931 to find a time when the top bracket was taxed as little as it is taxed today.

Now click over to the wiki page that lists the various country's tax revenues as a percentage of their Gross Domestic Product. You'll have to scroll down to the bottom to find the U.S. is fourth from the bottom.

In the U.S., 45% of our federal budget comes directly from income tax, and only 14% from corporate income taxes.

Of course, one reason we have one of the lowest taxation rates of any industrialized country is because we are a country that is addicted to borrowing money from China and Japan. These two countries basically own our ass. Check out this chart which depicts the changes to our national debt since Reagan:

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That chart comes from this page which has a number of interesting charts related to our government's spending.

All of this makes for a very complex picture, one that can't be summed up by saying we are robbing Peter to pay Paul. The reality is that we are borrowing, borrowing and borrowing our way into an ownership society in which we'll be the owned and China will be doing the owning...

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Robert   Palin   08/29/08 7:40pm
HammaTime   You really think this was a good choice?? She is ...   08/30/08 12:32am
Bargod   Have you forgotten who Druid... errr... Robert is?...   08/30/08 3:22am
realdeal   Great choice. It's amazing to me how they kee...   08/30/08 5:41am
Shred   She has a nice smile. Makes me want to see her nak...   08/30/08 9:21am
Robert   Me calling it 4 months ago http://www.mobclan.com/...   08/30/08 10:13am
realdeal   Me calling it 4 months ago [url=http://www.mobcla...   08/30/08 10:49am
HammaTime   Me calling it 4 months ago Amazing call! How ...   08/30/08 12:39pm
Robert   Of course I did, didn't know about anyone else...   08/30/08 10:57am
Shred   Maybe Druid has a crystal ball. Or possibly just E...   08/30/08 11:23am
Bargod   Different blog, but this was the pic: http://askp...   08/30/08 11:53am
Robert   Another funny comparison between Biden and Palin. ...   08/30/08 12:41pm
Robert   Something I do agree with Hamma on. While I don...   08/30/08 1:09pm
HammaTime   McCain played much better as possible president w...   08/30/08 2:59pm
HammaTime   Ooops! The local reaction in Alaska to her sel...   08/30/08 3:24pm
Robert   Glad to see your digging around for news unlike ot...   08/30/08 6:10pm
realdeal   The hard-core wingers will stop at nothing....alle...   08/30/08 9:29pm
Robert   This could leave a mark http://www.judicialwatch.o...   08/31/08 11:01am
Robert   Palin given the Chuck Norris treatment * Sarah Pa...   08/31/08 4:33pm
Shred   Peggy Sue posted thsi on BLAM http://www.youtu...   08/31/08 4:36pm
realdeal   A great country we live in!   08/31/08 4:58pm
Robert   I normally prefer to not reply on anything less th...   08/31/08 7:01pm
realdeal   Ouch! (If true... it is KOS after all) http:...   08/31/08 8:05pm
Robert   Probably true. KOS leans towards sensationalism bu...   08/31/08 8:16pm
realdeal   New CNN Poll numbers Obama 49 McCain 48 http://po...   08/31/08 8:25pm
Shred   Runner up to Miss Alaska 1988. Daddy want.   08/31/08 11:37pm
Robert   Well the whole baby thing has been proven as bogus...   09/01/08 12:21am
Shred   I'd like to do an Iditarod from the small of h...   09/01/08 2:16am
realdeal   Rut-Ro.... [size=2]Palin Says Her Daughter, 17, ...   09/01/08 12:39pm
Genocide Junkie   That's why it's important to teach your da...   09/01/08 10:35pm
Shred   Is this 1984? Fuck What is up with all these ...   09/01/08 10:45pm
UNDEAD 1   they live in alaska dont they ?   09/02/08 6:29am
HammaTime   Hey, you guys impress the hell out of me. For the ...   09/02/08 11:58am
THE Mechanic   I think that only Land Owners should have the righ...   09/02/08 4:12pm
HammaTime   Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!...   09/02/08 5:05pm
Shred   Woe. She is very sarcastic. Just lost my vote...   09/04/08 6:36am
Robert   Hamma. I'm a little surprised people think Pal...   09/04/08 10:00pm
UNDEAD 1   can i give you an opinion fron just a normal guy w...   09/04/08 11:05pm
Shred   Mayor. What an achievement. I think the smallest T...   09/05/08 9:11am
HammaTime   Maybe it was because I was tired, and this came at...   09/05/08 10:12am
Shred   So what happens when McCain kicks? We have a Hocke...   09/05/08 3:42pm
Robert   I'm getting a lot of laughs from Obama support...   09/05/08 5:55pm
Blitz   When politicians rob (tax) Peter to pay (entitelme...   09/05/08 9:47pm
HammaTime   Blitz, opposition to taxation is a wonderful topic...   09/06/08 2:29pm
Robert   Here is an interesting review from Newsweek concer...   09/10/08 2:26pm
Robert   Obama almost did what I said he needed to. http://...   09/10/08 7:03pm
Hellfighter   Robert trumps on this one; Impressive call on your...   09/11/08 6:35am
Robert   Always happy to see a post from my favorite neighb...   09/11/08 8:38am
Hellfighter   ........ "McCain an his 100 year plan" ...   09/11/08 10:35am
Genocide Junkie   I heard something the other day. Not sure if it...   09/11/08 12:56pm
Robert   Actually you're right. The fact didn't get...   09/11/08 1:32pm
Hellfighter   .......... An the reason why this is interesting....   09/11/08 4:17pm
Shred   Doh. Foreign policy not her strength. She should ...   09/12/08 9:25am
Robert   This election cycle is just amazing McCain has mad...   09/13/08 3:44pm
Hellfighter   This election cycle is just amazing McCain has ma...   09/16/08 7:01pm
Shred   Someone ask this chick how she is going to deal wi...   09/14/08 5:38am
THE Mechanic   [quote name='Shred' date='09/14/08 6:3...   09/15/08 2:38am
UNDEAD 1   i wonder how this guy will vote ? http://www.a...   09/16/08 10:24pm
Shred   Can we just swap Palin with Tina Fey? She knows m...   09/17/08 7:08am
Robert   Obama made several dumb moves over the last 2 mon...   09/17/08 10:55am
Hellfighter   ............. Nice use of liberal talking points t...   09/17/08 8:09pm
HammaTime   Nice use of liberal talking points there. Ouc...   09/18/08 12:19am
HammaTime   Actually, I was wrong about the above column being...   09/18/08 8:39am
Robert   To Hellfighter. My Mostest an Sincerest apologies....   09/18/08 12:47pm
HammaTime   You are onto something here. Lets keep the XOXOXOX...   09/18/08 3:53pm
Hellfighter   To Hellfighter. My Mostest an Sincerest apologies...   09/19/08 7:37am
Robert   See thats why I enjoy political debates or most de...   09/18/08 5:23pm
Robert   A few things Concerning Gramm, I never liked him....   09/19/08 9:51am
HammaTime   Gramm's high crime wasn't the repeal of Gl...   09/19/08 10:36pm
UNDEAD 1   "The free market for all intents and purposes...   09/20/08 11:42am
HammaTime   HA! He got that very, very wrong. Oh so wrong....   09/20/08 6:11pm
Shred   I may be able to vote for McCain if the lying stop...   09/20/08 7:53pm
Hellfighter   I bear good tidings for you Robert.... Actually I...   09/21/08 7:37am
HammaTime   It seems to be an amateurish hit piece that isn...   09/21/08 10:09am
HammaTime   Where have the fiscal conservatives gone? When I w...   09/21/08 11:00am
UNDEAD 1   wow ! i just printed this one!   09/22/08 3:34am
Robert   Regarding the KOS article you linked to. As with m...   09/22/08 12:35pm
HammaTime   Robert, you disappoint me. You must be busy with o...   09/22/08 3:52pm
Robert   I just noticed the article Hamma linked to is refe...   09/22/08 3:07pm
Robert   I now understand the confusion. The Gramm-Leach-Bi...   09/22/08 6:30pm
HammaTime   So my question for you is what's your opinio...   09/22/08 9:13pm
Robert   Change of topic. Biden's newest screw-up http:...   09/22/08 9:05pm
HammaTime   Change of topic. Biden's newest screw-up [url...   09/22/08 9:26pm
HammaTime   For our international friends: How We Became the ...   09/22/08 9:47pm
Robert   It was a screw up on Biden's part for being so...   09/23/08 5:52am
HammaTime   I think it's rather funny the change in attit...   09/23/08 9:22pm
Hellfighter   Dear Robert and Hamma, I'm watching the Legis...   09/23/08 2:04pm
Robert   I know you're kidding but sadly you are not th...   09/23/08 4:48pm
Robert   Actually I got the list off CPR site http://www.ca...   09/24/08 9:38am
HammaTime   Insightful questions, as usual. I'm off on a ...   09/24/08 9:48am
HammaTime   Damn you!! Now I'm going to be late...   09/24/08 10:12am
HammaTime   Couric: You've cited Alaska's proximity to...   09/25/08 10:04pm
Blitz   Exactly why Obama will never speak without a telep...   09/25/08 10:29pm
Hellfighter   .......... Exactly why Obama will never speak wit...   09/26/08 5:53am
Blitz   You must not be watching alot of Obama's spe...   09/26/08 8:00am
Hellfighter   You must not be watching alot of Obama's sp...   09/26/08 10:14am
HammaTime   Hey Blitz, glad to have more input into these disc...   09/26/08 10:20am
Robert   Personally I would like to see a mix of classic mo...   09/26/08 12:57pm
HammaTime   I agree that McCain hasn't been pulling this s...   09/26/08 1:37pm
Robert   It doesn't matter much that McCain also voted ...   09/26/08 2:05pm
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