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post 08/29/08 7:40pm
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Just wanted to point out I called Palin as VP over 4 months ago, for all the same reasons the decision was made now.
If McCain wins, I honestly believe this will be what puts him over the top.

Also you couldn't ask for better timing to make this announcement.
The DNC convention ended last night with a huge bang an there's not a single leading news story about it.
The news is 100% about Palin as VP.
Talk about stealing someones thunder.

I hope they win an McCain dies the next day.
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post 09/22/08 12:35pm
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Regarding the KOS article you linked to.
As with most of their stuff, it's written in a way which craftily hides the underlying bias of the article.
Peppering it with just enough facts to give it a feeling of honest investigative reporting not the hack piece it actually is.
Short list of my problems with the article.

"In 1982, the same year John McCain entered the Senate, a bill was put forward that would substantially deregulate the Savings and Loan industry. The Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act was an initiative of the Reagan administration, and was largely authored by lobbyists for the S&L industry -- including John McCain's warm-up speaker at the convention, Fred Thompson."
An initiative of the Reagan Administration? They point out it was a Reagan Initiative, to try an lay the blame on him. What they forget to mention is.
President Carter made the initial call to do something to help the S&L's as they were heading for financial disaster as early as 1978
The bill was originated by a Democrat
The Act was passed by a democrat controlled house
Was finally passed with a super majority.
While the GSDI Act played a part in the S&L crisis, it was only 1 of a dozens factors.
People also forget thru the 70's an up until the early 80's, close to 90% of the S&L's showed a loss. This is what the GSDI Act tried to help. It didn't directly cause the S&L meltdown but it did make it worse since it allowed them to carry more high risk debt then they previous could. ( 5% increased to 10% )


"However, many savings and loans -- among them Lincoln Savings & Loan Association of Irvine, CA, which was headed by a fellow named Charles Keating -- promptly ignored these rules. A quintet of senators, among them John McCain, began having meetings with both the management at Lincoln and the regulators at the loan board. "
Of course they have to tie McCain to Keating. after all he was part of the Keating 5.
Let just skip right over the fact the only reason he's even part of the Keating 5 is because the Democrat chairmen of the investigation turned down the recommendation of the lead investigator who concluded McCain wasn't involved. The democrat chairmen of the investigation insisted on keeping McCain's name on the list because he was the only Republican, otherwise it would have been a solely Democrat problem.
The Senate Ethics Committee found McCain completely innocent of any wrongdoing. Not only that but during the investigation, one of the other Senators testified Keating an McCain had a falling out because McCain refused to interfere with regulators investigating Keating.

Even so, by 1999 Phil Gramm -- who had entered the Senate two years after McCain and quickly become the economic guru of the Keating Five maverick -- put forward the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. This Act passed out of the Senate on a party line vote with 100% Republican support, including that of John McCain.
Again has to bring up the Keating 5 even though McCain was found not to have done anything wrong.
The they feel the need to point out how the GLB act passed with 100 Republican support, in a painfully obvious example of their bias. BTW they do really shitty research on this because it didn't pass with 100% Republican support as they claim.
Richard Shelby ® of Alabama voted againt the bill.
John McCain ® of Arizona didn't vote, yet they imply that he not only supported the bill but also voted for it.
So the final tally is 95% of the R's and 85% of D's supported the Act.
Apparently KOS was in such a hurry to put out their newsest political hack peice they couldn't take 60 seconds to verify the details of their article. Maybe it's some of the new Math, 95% equals 100% if helps them lay the blame for something at the feet of the Republicians. I'm surprised they didn't find some way to make excuses for the 85% of the Democrats who also supported it. They could always fall back on how Bush lied to them, as that has worked for them in the past.

Gramm-Leach-Bliley reversed those rules, allowing not only more bank mergers, but for banks to become directly involved in the stock market, bonds, and insurance. Remember the bit about how S&Ls failed because they didn't have the regulations that protected banks? After Gramm-Leach-Bliley, banks didn't have that protection either. Blatant misrepresentation about the effects on banking regulations.


Gramm wasn't done. The next year he was back with the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which was slipped into a "must pass" spending bill on the last day of the 106th Congress. This Act greatly expanded the scope of futures trading, created new vehicles for speculation, and sheltered several investments from regulation.
A few things of interest here. This was actually the 2nd time the Commodity Futures Modernization Act was introduced. The 1st one which Gramm wrote, did NOT include what became know as the "Enron Loophole".
The 2nd bill did include the Enron Loophole but there is nothing saying who out of the 5 sponsors of the bill included the new addition ( may have been Gramm but maybe not ). This does point to one of the issues KoS bring up which is a huge problem. This important piece of legislation was not debated in the House or Senate. Then again that doesn't matter, lets just blame it on Gramm.
This is one of a dozen reasons I would support a presidential Line item veto.
To much crap gets added to bills which have nothing to do with the original legislation.

"Not coincidentally, Senator Gramm, the second largest recipient of campaign contributions from Enron, was also key to legislating the deregulation of California's energy commodity trading."
KOS tries to lead people to the conclusion, Gramm was in Enron's pocket due to he was the 2nd largest recipient of campaign contributions. I guess they just want everyone to completely ignore the fact Enron was based in Texas so the majority of their campaign contributions automatically go to Texas politicians. This is a simple universal fact, not proof of some conspiracy. Undoubtedly during the time it was previously based in Omaha, the recipients of their campaign contributions would have been the leading Nebraska politician regardless of if they were D or R.

The part concerning the electricity trading in California would be one of the few parts of the story I agree with. BUT, I don't agree with their attempt to lay the blame with Gramm. I guess they think it's fair to skip right over the fact Enron was breaking several State an Federal laws. The part of the story which was accurate would be the effect of "credit default swap". What I don't agree with is their implication it was a foreseeable problem when the CFMA legislation was passed nor would I agree with KOS's characterization that CFMA was meant to block regulatory scrutiny. They purposefully take out of context what Greenspan said about them. It originally was a good thing because it did allow risk to be shared by several companies. It only became a problem when those same companies started cooking their books via credit swapping to enable them to take on more risk then allowed by law.
May as well mention while they condemn Greenspan for his initial approval of credit swapping. KOS purposefully fails to give him credit for early warning about Fannie an Freddie who enabled our current financial disaster.
Greenspan said in 2005
"If Fannie and Freddie continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road. We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.''


Overall the article is just as dishonest as the view deregulation is what CAUSED the S&L crisis. The truth is the deregulation involving the S&l's was done in an attempt to SAVE the already failing S&L's.

So besides the obvious political bias, near constant misuse of facts an worse fact checking than a high school newspaper, it was a decent article.
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Robert   Palin   08/29/08 7:40pm
HammaTime   You really think this was a good choice?? She is ...   08/30/08 12:32am
Bargod   Have you forgotten who Druid... errr... Robert is?...   08/30/08 3:22am
realdeal   Great choice. It's amazing to me how they kee...   08/30/08 5:41am
Shred   She has a nice smile. Makes me want to see her nak...   08/30/08 9:21am
Robert   Me calling it 4 months ago http://www.mobclan.com/...   08/30/08 10:13am
realdeal   Me calling it 4 months ago [url=http://www.mobcla...   08/30/08 10:49am
HammaTime   Me calling it 4 months ago Amazing call! How ...   08/30/08 12:39pm
Robert   Of course I did, didn't know about anyone else...   08/30/08 10:57am
Shred   Maybe Druid has a crystal ball. Or possibly just E...   08/30/08 11:23am
Bargod   Different blog, but this was the pic: http://askp...   08/30/08 11:53am
Robert   Another funny comparison between Biden and Palin. ...   08/30/08 12:41pm
Robert   Something I do agree with Hamma on. While I don...   08/30/08 1:09pm
HammaTime   McCain played much better as possible president w...   08/30/08 2:59pm
HammaTime   Ooops! The local reaction in Alaska to her sel...   08/30/08 3:24pm
Robert   Glad to see your digging around for news unlike ot...   08/30/08 6:10pm
realdeal   The hard-core wingers will stop at nothing....alle...   08/30/08 9:29pm
Robert   This could leave a mark http://www.judicialwatch.o...   08/31/08 11:01am
Robert   Palin given the Chuck Norris treatment * Sarah Pa...   08/31/08 4:33pm
Shred   Peggy Sue posted thsi on BLAM http://www.youtu...   08/31/08 4:36pm
realdeal   A great country we live in!   08/31/08 4:58pm
Robert   I normally prefer to not reply on anything less th...   08/31/08 7:01pm
realdeal   Ouch! (If true... it is KOS after all) http:...   08/31/08 8:05pm
Robert   Probably true. KOS leans towards sensationalism bu...   08/31/08 8:16pm
realdeal   New CNN Poll numbers Obama 49 McCain 48 http://po...   08/31/08 8:25pm
Shred   Runner up to Miss Alaska 1988. Daddy want.   08/31/08 11:37pm
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realdeal   Rut-Ro.... [size=2]Palin Says Her Daughter, 17, ...   09/01/08 12:39pm
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UNDEAD 1   they live in alaska dont they ?   09/02/08 6:29am
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Robert   Hamma. I'm a little surprised people think Pal...   09/04/08 10:00pm
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Shred   Mayor. What an achievement. I think the smallest T...   09/05/08 9:11am
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Robert   I'm getting a lot of laughs from Obama support...   09/05/08 5:55pm
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Robert   Obama almost did what I said he needed to. http://...   09/10/08 7:03pm
Hellfighter   Robert trumps on this one; Impressive call on your...   09/11/08 6:35am
Robert   Always happy to see a post from my favorite neighb...   09/11/08 8:38am
Hellfighter   ........ "McCain an his 100 year plan" ...   09/11/08 10:35am
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Robert   Actually you're right. The fact didn't get...   09/11/08 1:32pm
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Robert   This election cycle is just amazing McCain has mad...   09/13/08 3:44pm
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THE Mechanic   [quote name='Shred' date='09/14/08 6:3...   09/15/08 2:38am
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Shred   Can we just swap Palin with Tina Fey? She knows m...   09/17/08 7:08am
Robert   Obama made several dumb moves over the last 2 mon...   09/17/08 10:55am
Hellfighter   ............. Nice use of liberal talking points t...   09/17/08 8:09pm
HammaTime   Nice use of liberal talking points there. Ouc...   09/18/08 12:19am
HammaTime   Actually, I was wrong about the above column being...   09/18/08 8:39am
Robert   To Hellfighter. My Mostest an Sincerest apologies....   09/18/08 12:47pm
HammaTime   You are onto something here. Lets keep the XOXOXOX...   09/18/08 3:53pm
Hellfighter   To Hellfighter. My Mostest an Sincerest apologies...   09/19/08 7:37am
Robert   See thats why I enjoy political debates or most de...   09/18/08 5:23pm
Robert   A few things Concerning Gramm, I never liked him....   09/19/08 9:51am
HammaTime   Gramm's high crime wasn't the repeal of Gl...   09/19/08 10:36pm
UNDEAD 1   "The free market for all intents and purposes...   09/20/08 11:42am
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HammaTime   Where have the fiscal conservatives gone? When I w...   09/21/08 11:00am
UNDEAD 1   wow ! i just printed this one!   09/22/08 3:34am
Robert   Regarding the KOS article you linked to. As with m...   09/22/08 12:35pm
HammaTime   Robert, you disappoint me. You must be busy with o...   09/22/08 3:52pm
Robert   I just noticed the article Hamma linked to is refe...   09/22/08 3:07pm
Robert   I now understand the confusion. The Gramm-Leach-Bi...   09/22/08 6:30pm
HammaTime   So my question for you is what's your opinio...   09/22/08 9:13pm
Robert   Change of topic. Biden's newest screw-up http:...   09/22/08 9:05pm
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