| Robert |
08/29/08 7:40pm
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Just wanted to point out I called Palin as VP over 4 months ago, for all the same reasons the decision was made now.
If McCain wins, I honestly believe this will be what puts him over the top. Also you couldn't ask for better timing to make this announcement. The DNC convention ended last night with a huge bang an there's not a single leading news story about it. The news is 100% about Palin as VP. Talk about stealing someones thunder. I hope they win an McCain dies the next day. |
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| Robert |
09/24/08 9:38am
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Actually I got the list off CPR site
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/com...pr.asp?cycle=08 Which is about as non partisan as you can get. So I don't know where you get the idea it was from talking points. Speaking of talking points, after CPR published campaign donation numbers, Obama's camp had to pull back from their earlier suggestions MOST of his campaign donations came little average Americans giving $20-50. The truth is the majority comes from people donating over the $200 break limit for anonymous donations. Yes Obama is King of the presidential fundraisers, his total right now is about .3 billion. Which to me is just one more example of how screwed up out political system is. Does it matter the Fannie money wasn't directly from the PAC fund, No. Bundling donations has been a part of politics for a while now an is done by both sides. All it requires is the upper management to pull their "private" donations, then present it to whoever. Corps do this all the time to hide buying political favors. You can go to Obama's site an view a partial list of his private bundler's. Partial list of campaign donation bundler's As I said, this is done by both sides. McCain has been the worse of the two as far as updating his list of bundlers. My point is just because money comes from private individuals doesn't necessarily make it any less tainted than money coming directly from Corporate PAC's. Similar to how Obama denounced PAC funding as evil once he got the nomination but had no problem taking PAC money for his two senate races an to start his presidential bid. BTW your NYT story is rather lacking. They apparently didn't bother to go down the long list of VP's who all gave $1000 to Obama's or any other high ranking individuals at Fannie & Freddie. They are all listed at CPR if you want to take the time to do some searching. url=http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/committees/citizens-for-progressive-representation-cpr.asp?cycle=08 Speaking of talking points, give me your onion of this. Why is Gramm the only name constantly brought up in regards to McCain;s economic advisor's? There are actually 35 people on the list Actually only 34 since Gramm was dropped near the end of July , after his America whinnier remark. Kind of strange that Gramm was dropped almost 2 months ago but Obama's newest ad released yesterday refers to Gramm as "McCain lead economic adviser" PS. I missed your earlier post about Raine's. You're right he's not on the list of Obama's advisors. He was originally contacted about acting as a mortgage and housing advisor but failed to get the 2nd casting call when Freddie & Fannie went down the drain. The ex Freddie & Fannie CEO who did advise Obama on his VP pick would be Johnson not Raines as I previously said. |
| HammaTime |
09/24/08 9:48am
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![]() Major General ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 2008 Joined: November 17th 2005 From: Maine, USA Member No.: 1428 |
Insightful questions, as usual.
I'm off on a two-day trip and will be back at it on Friday. I too have wondered about Gramm. Of course, the main reason he is mentioned so predominantly is that McCain has put forward his name as his next Treasury Secretary, but now that you've mentioned this, I can't honestly say if that actually came from McCain's lips. That will be an interesting issue to look into. Perhaps you could look at some other New York based companies and see how their ratio of donations compares with the Fannie/Freddie mix. My guess is that the donation ratio will be very much the same. I agree that bundling is a problem, but there are a hell of a lot of problems in our elections. That said, I'd much rather see a campaign raise cash by encouraging small donations from many people. It is a Federal crime to donate money that isn't yours, I wonder if anyone has ever been successfully prosecuted for doing so. |
| HammaTime |
09/24/08 10:12am
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![]() Major General ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 2008 Joined: November 17th 2005 From: Maine, USA Member No.: 1428 |
Damn you!! Now I'm going to be late! LOL.
Your question intrigued me so much, I had to do a quick search. Looks like the search may have to employ Lexis/Nexis as there is so much noise in the system thanks to Gramm's infamous "nation of whiners" remark. I did find an interesting article published by Texas Observer last May that does a great job of shedding light on the McCain-Gramm connection. It really is no wonder why Gramm is the one who continues to be mentioned. |
| HammaTime |
09/25/08 10:04pm
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![]() Major General ![]() Group: {MOB} Posts: 2008 Joined: November 17th 2005 From: Maine, USA Member No.: 1428 |
Couric: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don't know, you know … reporters. Couric: Mocked? Palin: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah. Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials. Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there… Couric: Have you ever been involved in any negotiations, for example, with the Russians? Palin: We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state. ... good thing our financial system is melting down this very moment! Maybe no one will notice the presumptive nominee has a little too much air space!! LOL! No wonder John McCain is desperate to cause a distraction. I've come to the conclusion that her "trainers" have decided she isn't trainable. And is that a surprise? A 4-year communications degree can teach you how to read from a teleprompter, but it certainly is no preparation for the myriad nuances of playing World Leader. |
Robert Palin 08/29/08 7:40pm
HammaTime You really think this was a good choice??
She is ... 08/30/08 12:32am
Bargod Have you forgotten who Druid... errr... Robert is?... 08/30/08 3:22am
realdeal Great choice. It's amazing to me how they kee... 08/30/08 5:41am
Shred She has a nice smile. Makes me want to see her nak... 08/30/08 9:21am
Robert Me calling it 4 months ago
http://www.mobclan.com/... 08/30/08 10:13am
realdeal Me calling it 4 months ago
[url=http://www.mobcla... 08/30/08 10:49am
HammaTime Me calling it 4 months ago
Amazing call! How ... 08/30/08 12:39pm
Robert Of course I did, didn't know about anyone else... 08/30/08 10:57am
Shred Maybe Druid has a crystal ball. Or possibly just E... 08/30/08 11:23am
Bargod Different blog, but this was the pic:
http://askp... 08/30/08 11:53am
Robert Another funny comparison between Biden and Palin.
... 08/30/08 12:41pm
Robert Something I do agree with Hamma on.
While I don... 08/30/08 1:09pm
HammaTime
McCain played much better as possible president w... 08/30/08 2:59pm
HammaTime Ooops! The local reaction in Alaska to her sel... 08/30/08 3:24pm
Robert Glad to see your digging around for news unlike ot... 08/30/08 6:10pm
realdeal The hard-core wingers will stop at nothing....alle... 08/30/08 9:29pm
Robert This could leave a mark
http://www.judicialwatch.o... 08/31/08 11:01am
Robert Palin given the Chuck Norris treatment
* Sarah Pa... 08/31/08 4:33pm
Shred Peggy Sue posted thsi on BLAM
http://www.youtu... 08/31/08 4:36pm
realdeal A great country we live in! 08/31/08 4:58pm
Robert I normally prefer to not reply on anything less th... 08/31/08 7:01pm
realdeal Ouch! (If true... it is KOS after all)
http:... 08/31/08 8:05pm
Robert Probably true. KOS leans towards sensationalism bu... 08/31/08 8:16pm
realdeal New CNN Poll numbers
Obama 49
McCain 48
http://po... 08/31/08 8:25pm
Shred Runner up to Miss Alaska 1988.
Daddy want. 08/31/08 11:37pm
Robert Well the whole baby thing has been proven as bogus... 09/01/08 12:21am
Shred I'd like to do an Iditarod from the small of h... 09/01/08 2:16am
realdeal Rut-Ro....
[size=2]Palin Says Her Daughter, 17, ... 09/01/08 12:39pm
Genocide Junkie That's why it's important to teach your da... 09/01/08 10:35pm
Shred Is this 1984?
Fuck
What is up with all these ... 09/01/08 10:45pm
UNDEAD 1 they live in alaska dont they ? 09/02/08 6:29am
HammaTime Hey, you guys impress the hell out of me. For the ... 09/02/08 11:58am
THE Mechanic I think that only Land Owners should have the righ... 09/02/08 4:12pm
HammaTime Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!... 09/02/08 5:05pm
Shred Woe.
She is very sarcastic.
Just lost my vote... 09/04/08 6:36am
Robert Hamma.
I'm a little surprised people think Pal... 09/04/08 10:00pm
UNDEAD 1 can i give you an opinion fron just a normal guy w... 09/04/08 11:05pm
Shred Mayor. What an achievement. I think the smallest T... 09/05/08 9:11am
HammaTime Maybe it was because I was tired, and this came at... 09/05/08 10:12am
Shred So what happens when McCain kicks? We have a Hocke... 09/05/08 3:42pm
Robert I'm getting a lot of laughs from Obama support... 09/05/08 5:55pm
Blitz When politicians rob (tax) Peter to pay (entitelme... 09/05/08 9:47pm
HammaTime Blitz, opposition to taxation is a wonderful topic... 09/06/08 2:29pm
Robert Here is an interesting review from Newsweek concer... 09/10/08 2:26pm
Robert Obama almost did what I said he needed to.
http://... 09/10/08 7:03pm
Hellfighter Robert trumps on this one;
Impressive call on your... 09/11/08 6:35am
Robert Always happy to see a post from my favorite neighb... 09/11/08 8:38am
Hellfighter ........
"McCain an his 100 year plan" ... 09/11/08 10:35am
Genocide Junkie I heard something the other day. Not sure if it... 09/11/08 12:56pm
Robert Actually you're right. The fact didn't get... 09/11/08 1:32pm
Hellfighter ..........
An the reason why this is interesting.... 09/11/08 4:17pm
Shred Doh.
Foreign policy not her strength. She should ... 09/12/08 9:25am
Robert This election cycle is just amazing
McCain has mad... 09/13/08 3:44pm
Hellfighter This election cycle is just amazing
McCain has ma... 09/16/08 7:01pm
Shred Someone ask this chick how she is going to deal wi... 09/14/08 5:38am
THE Mechanic [quote name='Shred' date='09/14/08 6:3... 09/15/08 2:38am
UNDEAD 1 i wonder how this guy will vote ?
http://www.a... 09/16/08 10:24pm
Shred Can we just swap Palin with Tina Fey?
She knows m... 09/17/08 7:08am
Robert
Obama made several dumb moves over the last 2 mon... 09/17/08 10:55am
Hellfighter .............
Nice use of liberal talking points t... 09/17/08 8:09pm
HammaTime
Nice use of liberal talking points there.
Ouc... 09/18/08 12:19am
HammaTime Actually, I was wrong about the above column being... 09/18/08 8:39am
Robert To Hellfighter.
My Mostest an Sincerest apologies.... 09/18/08 12:47pm
HammaTime You are onto something here. Lets keep the XOXOXOX... 09/18/08 3:53pm
Hellfighter To Hellfighter.
My Mostest an Sincerest apologies... 09/19/08 7:37am
Robert See thats why I enjoy political debates or most de... 09/18/08 5:23pm
Robert A few things
Concerning Gramm, I never liked him.... 09/19/08 9:51am
HammaTime Gramm's high crime wasn't the repeal of Gl... 09/19/08 10:36pm
UNDEAD 1 "The free market for all intents and purposes... 09/20/08 11:42am
HammaTime HA! He got that very, very wrong. Oh so wrong.... 09/20/08 6:11pm
Shred I may be able to vote for McCain if the lying stop... 09/20/08 7:53pm
Hellfighter I bear good tidings for you Robert....
Actually I... 09/21/08 7:37am
HammaTime It seems to be an amateurish hit piece that isn... 09/21/08 10:09am
HammaTime Where have the fiscal conservatives gone? When I w... 09/21/08 11:00am
UNDEAD 1 wow ! i just printed this one! 09/22/08 3:34am
Robert Regarding the KOS article you linked to.
As with m... 09/22/08 12:35pm
HammaTime Robert, you disappoint me. You must be busy with o... 09/22/08 3:52pm
Robert I just noticed the article Hamma linked to is refe... 09/22/08 3:07pm
Robert I now understand the confusion. The Gramm-Leach-Bi... 09/22/08 6:30pm
HammaTime So my question for you is what's your opinio... 09/22/08 9:13pm
Robert Change of topic.
Biden's newest screw-up
http:... 09/22/08 9:05pm
HammaTime
Change of topic.
Biden's newest screw-up
[url... 09/22/08 9:26pm
HammaTime For our international friends:
How We Became the ... 09/22/08 9:47pm
Robert It was a screw up on Biden's part for being so... 09/23/08 5:52am
HammaTime
I think it's rather funny the change in attit... 09/23/08 9:22pm
Hellfighter Dear Robert and Hamma,
I'm watching the Legis... 09/23/08 2:04pm
Robert I know you're kidding but sadly you are not th... 09/23/08 4:48pm
Blitz Exactly why Obama will never speak without a telep... 09/25/08 10:29pm
Hellfighter ..........
Exactly why Obama will never speak wit... 09/26/08 5:53am
Blitz
You must not be watching alot of Obama's spe... 09/26/08 8:00am
Hellfighter
You must not be watching alot of Obama's sp... 09/26/08 10:14am
HammaTime Hey Blitz, glad to have more input into these disc... 09/26/08 10:20am
Robert Personally I would like to see a mix of classic mo... 09/26/08 12:57pm
HammaTime I agree that McCain hasn't been pulling this s... 09/26/08 1:37pm
Robert It doesn't matter much that McCain also voted ... 09/26/08 2:05pm![]() ![]() |
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