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Hellfighter
post 09/29/08 9:56am
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I'm not worthy to even get into the details of what's churning beneath this economic catastrophe looming ahead compared to the gurus we already have here discussing it.

But is it just me in thinking why are Repubs and some Dems in congess/ negotiations holding the US and world economy hostage just to save their political backsides.

As I understand it a massive meltdown like we've never seen in nearly a hundred years is only a step or 2 away, but we have Dems in Congress saying "no-no we can get this bailout plan launched ourselves but we want Repubs taking the plunge with us" and the we have Repubs acting like pussies because several hundred constituents are phoning opposing the plan - are the phone calls multiple calls from a few people, or do the hundreds of calls represent thousands saying 'no' to the plan.

Point is, in the face of a catastrophe shouldn't there be a realization to stave off the crisis at hand and later iron out the wrinkles.
I'm asking the gurus here -is this Global economy Russian Roulette of the worst kind?

So far today the market is showing meltdown fear over this bailout uncertainty.



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post 09/29/08 4:45pm
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QUOTE(Hellfighter @ 09/29/08 4:24pm) *


McCain towing the line for Repubs in Congress to holdout on not giving the bailout plan the green light.
Financial Gurus here please adivse.... what's the reality of disaster descending on us if things are held up much longer?

What do you base than on. McCain took a position on the bailout that i needed to happen, Obama did not.
You could just as easily say Obama failed to get the 40% of Democrat who voted against it, to get on board with the plan.


What really bothers me how little talk there has been to admit this $700 Billion would only be a start according to a lot of economist.

Pelosi's stupid speech just proves why I'm so scared over the idea of Obama being Pres. in a way I wouldn't have been concerned if it were Hillary.
For days there has been an overwhelming call to put aside partisan politics. Then right before the vote she turns the whole mess upside down with last minute finger pointing. The bill would have probably failed anyway but now it will be more of a struggle to get anything done.
I still don't understand why the house rushed this when the senate wouldn't have voted until Wednesday.
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QUOTE(Robert @ 09/29/08 5:45pm) *
QUOTE(Hellfighter @ 09/29/08 4:24pm) *


McCain towing the line for Repubs in Congress to holdout on not giving the bailout plan the green light.
Financial Gurus here please adivse.... what's the reality of disaster descending on us if things are held up much longer?

What do you base than on. McCain took a position on the bailout that i needed to happen, Obama did not.
You could just as easily say Obama failed to get the 40% of Democrat who voted against it, to get on board with the plan.


What really bothers me how little talk there has been to admit this $700 Billion would only be a start according to a lot of economist.

Pelosi's stupid speech just proves why I'm so scared over the idea of Obama being Pres. in a way I wouldn't have been concerned if it were Hillary.
For days there has been an overwhelming call to put aside partisan politics. Then right before the vote she turns the whole mess upside down with last minute finger pointing. The bill would have probably failed anyway but now it will be more of a struggle to get anything done.
I still don't understand why the house rushed this when the senate wouldn't have voted until Wednesday.



Actually there's alot of talk that the bailout plan is NO guarantee that it'll be the cureall for everything right away.
However, the world markets are praying the US market doesn't collapse -and are desiring any type of plan -part or whole to be agreed upon.If the world markets collapse then likely a bailout plan won't count for much
Time is of the essence.
Yes, a significant number of Dems voted today against the plan -from what I understand they did so because the majority of Repubs who were expected to vote yes suddenly had a change of heart due to their pissy-ness at Pelosi's anti-Repub rant speech just before the voting. Why would that be a reason to cast a vote of spite instead of common sense with so much at stake is pretty clueless imo.
Pretty sad seeing McCain holding a mini press conference yesterday evening for a 2 minute speech blaming Obama for the bailout plan's failure -is he losing it? Not hard to see why the gap is widening when he goes to those extremes to one-up his opponent.
Let's hope ALL the nimrods in the House get there act together for Thursday. It's easy to cry about not having a pretty package for a bailout plan, but what does Congress miss in that a potential world collapse of markets is at the gate and that their political antics can potentially crush the global masses.
You're more the financial gurus here- tell me if that potential's not true.


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Hellfighter   BAILOUT PLAN   09/29/08 9:56am
HammaTime   So, your thread is really more about the politiciz...   09/29/08 10:10am
Hellfighter   Yes- I definitely see that they each want to cover...   09/29/08 10:15am
Hellfighter   Dow down 770+ today. Who wants to wake up tomorrow...   09/29/08 4:24pm
Robert   McCain towing the line for Repubs in Congress to...   09/29/08 4:45pm
Hellfighter   McCain towing the line for Repubs in Congress t...   09/30/08 2:00am
HammaTime   Pelosi's stupid speech just proves why I...   09/30/08 10:55am
Robert   Interesting perspective on the wall street drop ht...   09/30/08 9:25am
Hellfighter   Interesting perspective on the wall street drop [...   09/30/08 12:17pm
Robert   So does that mean you don't think Pelosi was s...   09/30/08 12:15pm
Robert   The Congress approval rating dropped to the single...   09/30/08 12:45pm
Robert   Final irrefutable proof that all questions in life...   09/30/08 1:14pm
HammaTime   LOL! Okay, we have to keep all of this in per...   09/30/08 1:46pm
Robert   3) Trying to affix blame is akin to pointing...   09/30/08 2:32pm
Robert   Remember how Bush got the blame for the housing su...   09/30/08 8:00pm
HammaTime   It strikes me that you are engaging in a smoke and...   09/30/08 10:05pm
Robert   Sorry but when the regulators where going after Fa...   10/01/08 1:02pm
Robert   As of right now I'm 100% against the current b...   10/01/08 7:25pm
Blitz   OK, I'm a simple minded idiot... The fact rem...   10/01/08 7:49pm
Hellfighter   OK, I'm a simple minded idiot... ..............   10/01/08 8:18pm
Robert   Hamma Since you think the cause was predatory len...   10/01/08 8:37pm
HammaTime   Great article. I have to admit, I think Blitz has...   10/01/08 9:52pm
Hellfighter   Flipside thought; If there was no economic crisis...   10/02/08 9:55am
Genocide Junkie   So I'm not smart enough to understand the whol...   10/02/08 5:20pm
HammaTime   Because the politicians are hearing an incredible ...   10/02/08 7:34pm
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Robert   As though we needed any more proof, the debt clock...   10/09/08 9:48am
HammaTime   Robert, you've done so much research into the ...   10/19/08 12:55pm


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