Biden vs. Palin VP Debate, Contest of Contests Options

[Hellfighter]

Damnnnnn

Ok, Robert - I love to hate to say this about you,
but you did it again - another prophetic call on your part. She did very well.

Who was THIS Palin?

Steady as a rock she was.....
From the War in Iraq session on she was visibly looking to go at it no holds barred with Biden.
Kudos to Palin's prep team.
A couple of slip ups on her part on foreign policy and a couple of domestic issues but she was very poised and solid. Mission accomplished for her in my opinion.

Biden was 'Johnny on the spot' to edge out Palin utilizing the full extent of his experience. I'm not sure Hillary could've topped her. Palin even threw Biden off his game visibly at one point regarding counterattacking Biden's point about the US general in Afghanistan saying the Surge wasn't applicable there.
It looked like he got an uppercut out of nowhere as he recolied for 2 seconds and looked down thinking; 'what the hell did she just do to me!'.
One thing I was fearing was she'd blow it so badly she'd be traumatized by it all her life. I think she can now go back to her room and woot woot all night and do victory somersaults on her bed - she can be proud she didn't fail those who counted on her tonight.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/02/08 9:47pm

[Robert]

Copied from my post in the palin thread
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The debate is only 75% over. Based on just the VP an P debates, I've been more impressed with Biden/Palin than McCain/Obama.
Both of them tonight have done a much better job than the last guys. I also think the MOD did a much better job. The only thing that pisses me off is the MOD let both of them refuse to directly answer how the financial crisis would effect their tax an spending plans.
Both of them bypassed the question, same as McCain an Obama did last week.
Out of all the questions in the debate, to me this is the most important one an neither party has been up front or honest with the answer.
I'm sure the Obama fans will have their own complains, the one which stands out for me is Biden making the false McCain gave tax breaks to big oil. This has nothing to do with Big Oil it's actually based on general reduction in corp taxes, which is something I believe in. Obama/Biden call it a oil tax cut because it's a hot-button keyword. I think it's pretty bad Biden fell back on this same point when all the fact check stories called it wrong or misleading when Obama did the same thing last time. Just as misleading as throwing out the gross income of Oil companies in stead if net profits, which would me the more honest number to focus on.

I wish fox would have had the real time audience indicator like the last debate, I found watching it during the answers very enlightening.

For the Obama fans, even though we have major disagreements, I'm very curious to hear how you think Palin did. Also would you agree they both did better than the other guys last week?

[Hellfighter]

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For the Obama fans, even though we have major disagreements, I'm very curious to hear how you think Palin did. Also would you agree they both did better than the other guys last week?

Biden didn't screw up - he was calm and brief to the point. He edged a win in my view in the fact that he had more substansive answers in the areas Palin was not as strong in.

Palin was like in the clips I saw of her in the Keith Olbermann show moments before the debate which showed her as crisp and to the point.
She never faltered and wasn't playing defensive - she barraduca'd the whole way -all 90 minutes.
As I said above she got the only real stunner of the night - small one; where she counter argued Biden's surge reference as he said was stated by a commander in Afghanistan.
She still didn't get into specifics of the questions posed to her but she tactfully ducked into related issues- but this time she did it without looking to Bs-y. With what she needed to do to avoid the worst case scenario of being destroyed and ending the campaign, she succeeded - if she can learn how to get into specifics instead of all the time saying 'how things will change' by stating 'what exactly will change' - and if she learns more about the mechanics of how Washignto works, she'll pick up some swing voters.... in fact it looks like McCain is now the deadweight in his campaign.

McCain's initial 'spoken' fear about the debate hostess -was a total flop.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/02/08 10:00pm