Biden vs. Palin VP Debate, Contest of Contests Options

[Hellfighter]

Damnnnnn

Ok, Robert - I love to hate to say this about you,
but you did it again - another prophetic call on your part. She did very well.

Who was THIS Palin?

Steady as a rock she was.....
From the War in Iraq session on she was visibly looking to go at it no holds barred with Biden.
Kudos to Palin's prep team.
A couple of slip ups on her part on foreign policy and a couple of domestic issues but she was very poised and solid. Mission accomplished for her in my opinion.

Biden was 'Johnny on the spot' to edge out Palin utilizing the full extent of his experience. I'm not sure Hillary could've topped her. Palin even threw Biden off his game visibly at one point regarding counterattacking Biden's point about the US general in Afghanistan saying the Surge wasn't applicable there.
It looked like he got an uppercut out of nowhere as he recolied for 2 seconds and looked down thinking; 'what the hell did she just do to me!'.
One thing I was fearing was she'd blow it so badly she'd be traumatized by it all her life. I think she can now go back to her room and woot woot all night and do victory somersaults on her bed - she can be proud she didn't fail those who counted on her tonight.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 10/02/08 9:47pm

[Robert]

I hate to always be bashing Palin here, but I just can't see the world being reassured by Palin once McCain bites the dust. I read something the other day regarding the late stages of McCain's skin cancer. A cancer surgeon was basically saying that he could have a very, very short time to live. He was actually implying that McCain wouldn't live out his term as President. Of course, we can't know for sure as the campaign hasn't let the press have unfettered access to his medical records, but that is another issue.

If that story was even remotely true, MSNBC would be running it as their lead story every night for the next 30 days. Even MSNBC finally had to break down an quit running running a bogus ad saying something like that which the other stations wouldn't even touch.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_ad
A ad put out by none other than the brother of the head of the Democrat party.
A few facts about skin cancer since the Democrats are so desperate to make in an issue.
Less than 10% chance of cancer coming back
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=90781894
The reason his cancer is considered the worse is because it is more likely to go untreated an unnoticed.
He goes to a specialist every 3 months to get checked. So I think it's unlikely there will be a recurrence which isn't caught early. It's been over 5 years since the last case of skin cancer. 5 years is important because it's commonly the point when someone is considered cured.
But just for you, lets go worse case scenario an say he gets re-diagnosed with skin cancer on Nov 5th.
Do you know what the 5 year survival rate of localized melanoma is? Which is what he had.
99%
http://www.cancer.org/downloads/PRO/SkinCancer.pdf
So lets review...
It's been over 5 years since his last case of skin cancer which when means he's considered cured from that instance.
Doctors think there is only a 10% chance of a new case of skin cancer. If that 1 in 10 chance does happen, he's got a 99% chance of surviving for 5 years.
If you add the 2 together, he's got a .1% chance of dying from skin cancer while in office.
Of all the legitimate thing someone could attack McCain over, this would have to be the dumbest an most desperate.

[HammaTime]

A few facts about skin cancer since the Democrats are so desperate to make in an issue.
Less than 10% chance of cancer coming back

And yet, McCain's melanoma cancer has come back THREE times!

According to reporting done by the Associated Press, he has only a ONE in FOUR chance of completing his second term in office!

More troubling is a report in the New York Times which quoted pathologists at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. They actually examined the melanoma specimen removed from McCain's temple in 2000 and suggested that McCain's doctors had not fully reported the extent of the cancer.

This was no left wing attack machine, this was a report from two respected cancer specialists:

Two pathologists at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology who examined the melanoma specimen from Mr. McCain's left temple in 2000 suggested that there were two melanomas on his temple, not one, as his doctors had said publicly at the time. Specifically, the Armed Forces Institute pathology report said that details about the lesion were ''highly suggestive of a metastasis of malignant melanoma and may represent a satellite metastasis,'' with satellite meaning one melanoma had spread to create another.

The Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale said it ''cannot comment'' on another institution's medical opinion, and stood by its diagnosis and treatment of Mr. McCain's melanoma. Mr. McCain's melanoma is classified as Stage IIA, his campaign has said.

But two experts in the field who reviewed the pathology report released on Friday said it was unclear whether the melanoma on Mr. McCain's temple had metastasized from another, or whether there was one new primary melanoma.

If the spread was through the nearby melanoma, that could suggest a greater risk, said Dr. Lynn M. Schuchter, a melanoma expert at the University of Pennsylvania, and Dr. Mohammed Kashani-Sabet, director of the Melanoma Center at the University of California, San Francisco.

- edited to add link to NYTimes article that cites the Armed Forces Institute's study of his melanoma.

This post has been edited by HammaTime: 10/03/08 3:09pm