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HammaTime
post 10/03/08 11:55pm
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All I can say is, Wow.

I just finished reading a piece that will be published in the October 16 issue of Rolling Stone Magazine on the life of John McCain. It quickly becomes painfully obvious that an awful lot of his former friends, associates and fellow POW's really detest the man.

It is a brutal, brutal take on the man and his legend:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstor...eal_john_mccain
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post 10/06/08 12:22pm
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QUOTE(HammaTime @ 10/06/08 9:08am) *

I'm distrustful of anyone who has had so many of his Senate peers state that he is unfit to serve. I'm distrustful of anyone who has switched their position on substantive issues so frequently..

Now you got me curious, I would be interested to see this list of Senate peers who consider McCain unfit to lead. I sure hope this wouldn't be some silly biased partisan list with a lot of (D)'s after the names.
As for people changing their stance on issues. Do you mean like.
* Obama saying Wright was like a uncle to him, there is no way he would ever repudiate the man, then does exactly that a few weeks later.
* Maybe you're talking about Obama averaging a $1 Million in earmarks per day in office for 3 years. Then suddenly finds his conscious an declares all earmarks as bad, requesting a 1 year referendum on all earmarks
* Obama claiming he will not accept camping donations from lobbyist or PACS even though he had no problem taking money from them in the past or even using their money to help launch his presidential bid.
* Attacked Clinton an Edwards for taking ""special interest" money from unions. Changed his opinion those "special interest" where bad when he started receiving donations from unions.
* In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." In in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."
* In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He said he would oppose it. Then in one of the Presidential debates, he said "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."
* While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In 2008 during the presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.
* Despite Originality Pledging To Withdraw American Troops From Iraq Immediately, Barack Obama Now Says He Would "Refine" His Policy After Listening To The Commanders On The Ground.
* In June 2008, Barack Obama Said He Thought The D.C. Handgun Ban Was Unconstitutional. Earlier this year during an interview he said he supported the DC gun ban
* Criticizes The Administration's Energy Policy but voted for the Bush energy bill
* Has changed his opinion on nuclear energy 3 times. 9/2007 said he was for it. 12/2007 said he was against it. During the 1st Presidential debate McCain said nuclear energy was an important part of the US energy policy. Obama said he agreed but their is no mention of nuclear power on Obama's posted energy policy.
* During The Primaries, Barack Obama Pledged To Filibuster Any Bill Which Contained Immunity For Telecommunications Companies Involved In Electronic Surveillance, then failed to vote against the bill.
* Originally said he would Debate "Anywhere, Anytime". Then rejected McCain's request for additional town hall style debates.
* Can't even offer an honest answer to a simple question from a 7 year old.
He wants to turn back the clock & move forward
* Said he would support a law protecting infants who survive abortion. Then turned around an voted against a law which would do just that.
* In 2004 said he wouldn't run for President in 2008 because he didn't have enough experience.
Ahhhh how things change.
And his running mate Mr. Biden agreed with him, Obama not ready
* The Surge? People seem to forget his crappy Couric interview
Was against the surge in July
It was a success in Sep when Orielly asked him.
* In 2007 he supported Ahmadinejad's right to speak at the UN. In 2008 he said he was disappointed that Ahmadinejad was allowed to speak. I guess you could say he was for Ahmadinejad before he was against him.

Before you start to compile your own long list of McCain Flip/Flops, don't bother. I'm willing to concede the point, I only brought this up in reply to your statement you didn't like McCain based on his switching positions. I'm just proving the point both side do it. Some issue are small while others are not.
The one which stand out the most for me would be Obama switching sides on the FISA issue.
With all the crap Bushes opponent have accused him of over the last 8 years, this would be the one thing they got right. Congress should of had the balls to force a vote on the illegality of domestic wiretapping. Of course when push comes to shove even Obama who was one of the most outspoken critics on this issue folded up like a cheap shirt.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9982898-7.html

If that's not enough then there is always the 129 "present" votes while in the Illinois senate.
You don't have to worry about changing sides on an issue when you refuse to take a side by voting that way.

We're down to 30 days so the ad's will get really interesting. Have to wait an see what happens at the next two debates but I don't see McCain winning unless someone produces a video of Obama smoking crack while getting it on with a white male prostitute.
Even then some of his supporters would say" it was just sex"




I look forward to reading the 60 minutes story, should be interesting.


A humorous but accurate description of Obama tax plan from Thompson speech at the RNC.
"Now, our opponents tell us not to worry about their tax increases. They tell you they're not going to tax your family. No, they're just going to tax "businesses." So, unless you buy something from a business, like groceries or clothes or gasoline or unless you get a paycheck from a business, a big business or a small business, don't worry, it's not going to affect you. They say they're not going to take any water out of your side of the bucket, just the other side of the bucket."
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HammaTime   McCain - unfit to lead?   10/03/08 11:55pm
Robert   I'm surprised you hadn't seen that before,...   10/04/08 9:45am
HammaTime   I had missed it completely. Guess that's what ...   10/04/08 3:12pm
Robert   You've mentioned politico.com before, I'm ...   10/04/08 4:46pm
Blitz   John McCain, Prisoner of War: A First-Person Accou...   10/04/08 5:09pm
HammaTime   Okay, Robert shamed me into looking around a bit m...   10/05/08 10:19am
Robert   As I said earlier, I'm not a big McCain fan bu...   10/05/08 2:50pm
HammaTime   Interesting thoughts. I would disagree over the i...   10/05/08 5:23pm
Robert   Palin wasn't in a position to vote for earmark...   10/05/08 7:06pm
HammaTime   Robert, I'm surprised that you would stoop to ...   10/05/08 10:16pm
Robert   Unfortunately a line item veto will never happen s...   10/06/08 5:54am
Hellfighter   ........ But that's okay because we still hav...   10/06/08 6:44am
HammaTime   That is not the politics of "Change" th...   10/06/08 9:08am
Genocide Junkie   I certainly hope SOMEONE is able to investigate...   10/07/08 2:45am
HammaTime   By your response, I'll assume you didn't b...   10/07/08 9:14am
Robert   The whole Change an Hope slogan is nothing but emp...   10/06/08 7:45am
Robert   I'm distrustful of anyone who has had so man...   10/06/08 12:22pm
HammaTime   Watch the 60 Minutes story! I'm beginning...   10/06/08 2:05pm
Robert   I don't know what to think of the 60 minute pi...   10/07/08 12:19pm
Genocide Junkie   A few journalist vs the amount of media now is a j...   10/07/08 1:36pm
Genocide Junkie   I also don't see how you can think a society n...   10/07/08 1:54pm
Robert   I would at least partially agree with Geno. There ...   10/07/08 2:34pm
HammaTime   Geno, perhaps you'd like to familiarize yourse...   10/07/08 4:28pm


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