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HammaTime
post 10/03/08 11:55pm
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All I can say is, Wow.

I just finished reading a piece that will be published in the October 16 issue of Rolling Stone Magazine on the life of John McCain. It quickly becomes painfully obvious that an awful lot of his former friends, associates and fellow POW's really detest the man.

It is a brutal, brutal take on the man and his legend:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstor...eal_john_mccain
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post 10/07/08 2:34pm
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I would at least partially agree with Geno.
There is a huge difference between war reporting being done in before the age of instant satellite video feeds. It's bad on two levels.
1) You got the possiblity for a huge fuckup like what happened with Rivera broadcasting live to the world ( including the enemy ) I'm with US Army Unit XYZ, we are currently located here, an plan on movie to this location later today. Actually drawing out a map in the sand to give their present location an future location.
2) I can understand the need to hold soldiers accountable on some level but when people are in a position of possible split second life an death decisions. The last they they need to be worry about is some dumbass reporter putting a camera in their face, trying to second guess what they did because it will make for good ratings.

Something else I though of concerning the Osama story. Back during the 2004 elections there was a lot of controversy regarding Osama
Why didn't bush get him...
Bush failed to get the job done....
Bush purposefully didn't get Osama because he made for a great specter to hold over everyone an keep them in fear.
I always thought that line of reasoning was incredibly short sighted. If Bush would have gotten Osama it would have guaranteed him the election. In all the discussion about why we didn't get Osama, I've suggested there might have been a secret decision not to get him because doing so would only increase Osama's potential as some folklore martyr to the cause. It's all a matter of perspective, to them he's like
Audie Murphy, Jimmy Doolittle, and Paul Tibbets rolled into one.
I can certainly see a discussion where the people in change would decide Osama marginalized an funding cut off being less of a threat then dead an transformed into some god sized martyr. Where he would become a rallying cause for extremist for decades to come.
I only mention this because he fits in really well with what the Major said about his orders where not to have Osama brought in by US personnel. Killed in a bombing would be okay but it would be unacceptable to have him captured alive or assassinated.

I'm really surprised there is zero discussion anywhere about the 60 minutes story,at least not any of the news discussion sites I frequently visit.
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HammaTime   McCain - unfit to lead?   10/03/08 11:55pm
Robert   I'm surprised you hadn't seen that before,...   10/04/08 9:45am
HammaTime   I had missed it completely. Guess that's what ...   10/04/08 3:12pm
Robert   You've mentioned politico.com before, I'm ...   10/04/08 4:46pm
Blitz   John McCain, Prisoner of War: A First-Person Accou...   10/04/08 5:09pm
HammaTime   Okay, Robert shamed me into looking around a bit m...   10/05/08 10:19am
Robert   As I said earlier, I'm not a big McCain fan bu...   10/05/08 2:50pm
HammaTime   Interesting thoughts. I would disagree over the i...   10/05/08 5:23pm
Robert   Palin wasn't in a position to vote for earmark...   10/05/08 7:06pm
HammaTime   Robert, I'm surprised that you would stoop to ...   10/05/08 10:16pm
Robert   Unfortunately a line item veto will never happen s...   10/06/08 5:54am
Hellfighter   ........ But that's okay because we still hav...   10/06/08 6:44am
HammaTime   That is not the politics of "Change" th...   10/06/08 9:08am
Genocide Junkie   I certainly hope SOMEONE is able to investigate...   10/07/08 2:45am
HammaTime   By your response, I'll assume you didn't b...   10/07/08 9:14am
Robert   The whole Change an Hope slogan is nothing but emp...   10/06/08 7:45am
Robert   I'm distrustful of anyone who has had so man...   10/06/08 12:22pm
HammaTime   Watch the 60 Minutes story! I'm beginning...   10/06/08 2:05pm
Robert   I don't know what to think of the 60 minute pi...   10/07/08 12:19pm
Genocide Junkie   A few journalist vs the amount of media now is a j...   10/07/08 1:36pm
Genocide Junkie   I also don't see how you can think a society n...   10/07/08 1:54pm
Robert   I would at least partially agree with Geno. There ...   10/07/08 2:34pm
HammaTime   Geno, perhaps you'd like to familiarize yourse...   10/07/08 4:28pm


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