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post 07/07/04 3:31pm
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QUOTE (cypher @ Jul 7 2004, 01:10 PM)

C'mon Johnnie, give me some numbers...
Clinton came within 15 minutes and 2 cruise missiles of killing Bin Ladin years before 9/11 using selected special ops soldiers and good intelligence. 


Close only counts in horsehoes and hand grenades. You left out the part about Clinton turning down offers from the Sudanese government to hand over Bin Laden to the United States.

QUOTE (cypher @ Jul 7 2004, 01:10 PM)

I read an interview with Greg Graffin (lead singer, Bad Religion, MBA) who said, (paraphrasing) 'Five years ago the country's biggest concern was a cum stain on a blue dress, now we have to wonder if every minivan that drives up to our show is loaded with explosives.  You tell me if we are better off?'


I hope you're not blaming Bush for the 9/11 attacks. I blame the Clinton administration. For 8 years the Clinton administration did what they could to basically destroy the defense budget. FBI agents were trying to fight through government imposed walls, handcuffed by government imposed restrictions and starved for basic information technology.

And let's not forget the terrorist attacks which happened under Clinton's watch:

1. The first WTC attack on 2/26/93. Clinton did nothing. He didn't even visit the site. He also allowed this attack to be classified as a criminal act by individuals, even though the mastermind of the attack was Ramzi Youssef who, by the way was an Iraqi intelligence agent.

2. 10 months after the inital WTC attack, there was the attack in Mogadishu on american military forces who were in the country to bring food to starving Somalis.

3. The 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudia Arabia. This was done by Iranian and Palestinian terrorists acting on behalf of Al-Qaeda. The Saudi government refused to cooperate in finding those responsible - the Clinton administration did nothing about it.

4. 1998 - the year of the Lewinsky, Al-Qaeda blew up the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Over 200 people were killed and over 6,000 injured. Clinton's response? The missile strike of the medicine factory and an EMPTY terrorist camp.

Despite the above, EVERY year that these attacks occurred, the Democratic leaders supported bills to cut US intelligence funding and other funding for CIA operations.

Additionally, I think it was 1995 when Al Gore was appointed to head a task force to tighten aiport security. That task force's key reccomendation which might have prevented 9/11, was rejected by the White House on fears of racial profiling.
Who would have thought that Al gore was actually able to come up with a novel idea? And then for that idea only to fall upon deaf ears.

Like you, I certainly do not agree with everything the Republican party does and I certainly do not vote one party blindly. But do I think we will be better off with Bush for the next four years? DEFINITELY.

QUOTE (cypher @ Jul 7 2004, 01:10 PM)

I will tell you when I lost my faith in the Bush administration.  Last year during the first quarter Bush announced that the economy was in recovery because he created thousands of new jobs during the fourth quarter of the previous year.  The fourth quarter, are you fucking kidding me?  UPS alone hires 40,000 people during the fourth quarter for Christmas help, people who go back to their normal lives after the holidays.  Then the report for the following quarter comes out and lo and behold we were still in a recession.


As for the economy? Considering what happened on 9/11, I think the economy is in pretty damn good shape. Especially of late. The GDP has grown by more than 5% in the last 3 quarters. (Which is the fastest rate of growth in 20 years.) There have been 1.5 million jobs created and steady job gains in the last 10 months.

Without boring you with Kerry's voting record on national security issues and defense spending, I think this country will be much better off and safer with Bush for the next 4 years.


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realdeal   The truth about Fahrenheit 9/11   07/05/04 11:41pm
Silver   what a tard...   07/06/04 6:36am
cypher   That guy has always been a windbag. I saw a show ...   07/06/04 10:36am
realdeal   OMG! Al Franken????????????????????????? :...   07/06/04 10:38am
cypher   Sorry Man, I just read his last book and it was aw...   07/07/04 7:37am
NecroKitty   Cypher, I haven't told you that I love you lat...   07/07/04 8:17am
cypher   Thanks beautiful! To be completely honest, ...   07/07/04 11:15am
cypher   BTW, I sat in on a lecture by my favorite Poly Sci...   07/07/04 11:20am
Johnzillah   I will take my President with his sub 100 iq over ...   07/07/04 11:22am
cypher   C'mon Johnnie, give me some numbers... Clinto...   07/07/04 12:10pm
Epacy   Cypher is right!   07/07/04 2:49pm
realdeal   Close only counts in horsehoes and hand grenades...   07/07/04 3:31pm
cypher   No, I don't blame the economy on Bush, I am an...   07/07/04 4:10pm
realdeal   Cypher, correct me if I am wrong but you sound lik...   07/07/04 4:18pm
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Johnzillah   GWB supporting the local economy. http://www.wral....   07/07/04 10:41pm
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