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now before i show u guys this, i would like to note that i'm not a liberal, im not a conservative, i do not favor kerry's ideals over bush's ideals (they both serve the same people, doesnt matter who won that staged election because they'd both send the country down the shitter, they're both skull & bones members etc.). now i will prolly step on a lot of toes with this post. ive played in mob server a long while back, and ive made sort of friends here(remember Little_Dude, or TheGreatEqualizer?). i respect you all, but there is something that needs to get out. you guys will ferociously deny what i post here, but if u do the research, ull find out that what i m about to tell u is true. ive devoted the last 6 months of my life to the 9/11 Truth movement and ive spent countless days analyzing the events of 9/11, photos, footage, etc. I'm really good in physics, and i am a very smart person, most of all, i always keep an open mind. now after seeing fahrenheit 9/11, i did not cheer. michael moore is a fat liberal piece of shit out to try to get money from the liberals by taking small territory from the truth movement. f911 was liberal propaganda, nothing more, and i know that as well as u know that, and it probably did more to hurt the movement than help it. the truth goes beyond fahrenheit 9/11's anti-bush propaganda about bush and bin laden being friends. now that's not a lie that they were friends, and about the oil pipeline and all that, but f911 was bullshit propaganda because it focused more on bashing bush than the truth. please, keep an open mind when reading this, your first reaction will be undoubtedly that im a conspiracy nutjob who believes whatever the media tells me. i do not. i do not hear this from the mainstream media. the mainstream media is controlled, and i do not believe a word of it, whether it's what u guys call liberal or conservative. i take no part in it. now, i present to you, the truth of 9/11.
one more note, please look up anything and everything i say. dont believe it from my mouth, look it up urself. research everything i say so that u know it's fact and that im not just making it up. before i present the truth, i'd like to try to open ur minds a little bit with some historical examples of governments attacking their people for political gain. on february 27th, 1933, hitler burned down his own reichstag building and blamed the communists. he was able to obtain full dictatorial powers, and just like from 9/11, the people were more than willing to give up their rights for security from the internal threat of the communists, which were eliminated shortly after the reichstag fire. after this, the people were enslaved. you all know how the rest of WW II played out. on another post someone mentioned pearl harbor being roosevelt's fault. not necessarily, but popular to contrary belief, even the history channel has no admitted that roosevelt knew of pearl harbor ahead of time. the american navy cracked the japanese naval codes and intercepted messages months ahead of time stating details about the attack. possibly the most incriminating piece of historical evidence is a document called Operation Northwoods. It was thought up in 1962 and it detailed hijacking/blowing up American aircraft, killing marines at guantanomo bay, even a "Remember the Maine" incident on american ships, all as a pretext to go to war with cuba. if u do not believe this document exists, u can look it up in the government archives by the following steps: 1. go to http://www.archives.gov/research_room/arc/ 2. click on the yellow "Search" button torwards the upper left side 3. search for "Northwoods" and hit go 4. click on the first hit, "Northwoods, U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba" 5. click on all images 6. jump to page 23 7. read pages 138-142 of the document next, bill clinton was a douchebag as stated in a previous thread, because WTC bombing in 1993 and OKC bombing in 95 were both inside jobs as well. OKC bombing was more clear cut than 9/11. there were local news reports and eye witness reports of 2 unexploded devices inside the building that were removed by the ATF. not to mention an analysis of the damage shows it was blown OUTWARDS and not INWARDS, and amonium nitrate is NOT a powerful explosive, not powerful enough to do that much damage from across the street. you can look this one up too, you'll find tons of info about this. one more thing in the few months prior to 9/11, bush signed Executive Order W199i telling the FBI to "back off" the bin ladens. i wonder y. the man who blew the whistle on this, John O'neil resigned from the CIA after going public. unfortunately, he was hired a few weeks after that to work in the twin towers, and he died on his first day on the job, september 11th, 2001. look this one up because this sounds something to strange to be true, but it is. now, onto 9/11. When a crime is committed, any TRUE investigator will look at who has the motive. now on 9/11, we were TOLD the criminals who committed the crime were arab terrorists. when you search arab/muslim terrorists, you find no real motive. you find the bs motive that the media fed us of "they're jealous of our freedom... they dont like america...". well let's not forget that al-CIAeda was founded, funded, and trained by our government. why the hell would they attack people that founded them, funded, and trained them? answer: they wouldnt. bin laden was a CIA asset. he's not gonna attack his long time business partner and friend. that notion is absurd. now let's look at possible motives for the government: to get more profits from war, to further the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) and Wolfowitz Doctrine (you can look them both up online) policies that clearly state we need a war in iraq and afghanistan and this would be sped up by a "pearl harbor" event... to get MORE control over us (PATRIOT ACT![1 and 2]), to further the police state, bring us one step closer to a dictatorship... the motives for an attack by the government are endless. now let's focus on the actual events of that day. to be successful without the government's help, the terrorists would have to find some way to get into the country unnoticed, train to be master pilots unnoticed, and find some way to defeat NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense). See NORAD is a system of radars throughout the country whose headquarters are in Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado. they track EVERY plane in the sky on radar. they KNOW if a plane goes off course, in which case they would send fighters within minutes to investigate. what we have here on 9/11 is 2 planes simultaneously wandering off course, and yet, no fighters. the first plane was off course (COMPLETELY) for 40 minutes, the next one was off course for 70 minutes, then the pentagon plane was off course for about 40 mins as well. no fighters sent for these 3 planes. now we have examples such as payne stewart (remember, the golfer guy whose plane got off course a few years ago?) whose plane was off course for only about 15-20 mins when fighters arrived. that's a small cessna plane. these are huge boeing 757/767 jet passenger liners off course for 40-70 minutes. no fighters. those terrorists must've been something to defeat the american airspace, eh? next we have the planes hit the towers. after only 56 (i think) minutes, the south tower magically collapses. we're told that the fire was so hot that it weakened the steel enough to cause the building to collapse. now, again, to this lie, i will turn to historical (and scientific) evidence. in 1970 (i think), there was a fire in the south tower that consumed floors 9-19 and burned for i think 19 hours. that was at the bottom of the tower. no collapse. just these past few days, a 32 story steel and concrete skyscraper in madrid spain was fully ENGULFED in flames for 17 hours, and that was days ago. no collapse. look this one up to see how major that fire was. the pictures say a thousand words. no steel-framed building had EVER collapsed due to fire in history, yet we have 3 on september 11th. coincidence? i think not. what we have here is the clear LIE stating that fire burning for only 56 minutes at 3/4 the way up the tower was enough to weaken the steel enough. jet fuel only burns at about 1000 degrees fahrenheit, yet steel has a melting point of 2800 degrees fahrenheit. the jet fuel(most of it) burned up in that giant fireball you saw. the jet fuel didnt burn much inside, and by the end there were only a few smoldering oxygen starved fires. the steel was freezing compared to what it would need to melt! in other words, those towers would not have collapsed had they not had the help of something: DEMOLITION CHARGES. your first reaction is "how the hell can they put demolition charges into the tower without anyone noticing?" answer: easily. on the weekend of september 8-9, there was a powerdown in the WTC and engineers were seen walking in and out of the towers all weekend long. what better time to put demolition charges in? there is none. if you watch different videos of the towers collapsing, you can SEE the demolition charges. you can see... just watch the towers collapse it looks like they explode outward, and u can see in certain places the buildings popping out floor by floor, along with testimony from firefighters saying that they saw the towers start poppin out floor by floor. ill link up to a webpage with good video clearly showing the demo charges the next event on 9/11 was the attack on the pentagon... which is a completely ridiculous claim. first of all, the official story states that the plane flew inches above the cars on I-395 to slam into the pentagon, leaving barely any wreckage at all, because most of the ALUMINUM wreckage "burnt up". gimme a freakin break. burnt up? metal doesnt "burn up". metal melts (not to mention that jet fuel doesnt even reach a temperature high enough to melt aluminum) but it doesnt burn up. yet if u look at pictures of the pentagon... you see no wreckage... and the way it collapsed (that section), if u look at the adjacent section, it looks like a CROSS-SECTION, perfectly cut like a hot knife through butter. now to disect the lie about flying inches above the cars: if you flew a boeing 757 inches above a highway, it would rip all the cars off the highway and throw them like a leaf in wind. and even with all of that, the "plane" still managed to puch neatly through 9 feet of steel reinforced concrete and 3 rings of the pentagon going in a complete straight line... without the wings being found anywhere (there was only a 12x14 foot hole made by the plane that struck the pentagon, where are the wings?). the only thing that can punch that neatly throught that much steel reinforced concrete is depleted uranium, or in english, a missile. the next event was the plane crashing in shanksville pennsylvania. remember that todd beamer story about "let's roll!" and how they heroically wrestled the terrorists and brought the plane down? well, quoth donald rumsfeld while talking to the soldiers in Iraq on december 25th, 2004: "I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, -> SHOT DOWN THE PLANE OVER PENNSYLVANIA <- and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten – indeed the word 'terrorized' is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be." mis-spoke/slipped my ass. he wouldn't have said that if it didnt happen. now y the cover up? who knows. but that's a clear lie. the last event on 9/11 occured at 5:20 PM, and that was the collapse of the WTC building 7, a 47 story building about 200 yards from from the towers. question: how does a building with only a few minor scattered fires collapse at the rate of a free-falling body in a vacum? answer: demolition charges. we KNOW this for a fact. the main reason is because of Larry Silverstein's (landlord of the WTC) admission that the firefighters said they couldn't contain the fires so they had to "pull it", controlled demolition terms for "pulling" the thing that starts the demolition. demo charges need to be put in place ahead of time, days ahead of time. controlled demolitions take WEEKS of planning, so those charges had to be in place prior to that day. now also, the building falls as if it's not even hitting the ground... it falls only .2 of a second slower than a FREE-FALLING OBJECT IN A VACUM, that is, without air resistance. now think, when this thing comes down it has a lot of resistance. all of those steel beams... air resistance. .2 slower. you cannot have a collapse of that speed without demolition charges. there's plenty of evidence right there. here are some sites: www.prisonplanet.com/911.html <-- best archival source www.infowars.com www.propagandamatrix.com www.letsroll911.org www.reopen911.org (go to the bottom and get ur free 4 hour DVD about 9/11) www.911busters.com dont forget guys, PLEASE LOOK THIS STUFF UP. i hope you are all open-minded people, and i hope you will all look this up before telling me it's completely ridiculous and that im just a conspiracy nut. the truth is out there... look it up. i dont want to here anyone saying it is completely ridiculous if they havent looked up everything ive said with the sources ive given. thanx for all being open-minded! 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02/18/05 6:45am
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Benny Hinn -- The quote from Rumsfeld proves absolutely nothing, not to mention there is no evidence the plane was shot down.
ScarFace -- Now the airplane that crashed in Pennsilvania was not shot down. Just look the crash site. If an airplane was shot in mid air the explose alone would have scattered the pieces around in a couple of mile radius. Now did you see parts and piece of the plane scattered around nicely everywhere? Neither did I. blk96gt -- You heard eye witness reports huh. From where? Did you talk to these people first hand? Or was this taken from one of those dumbass sites you go to? Again, please show me where you get this info from. Don't say, teh intraw3b d00d, no shit shirlock, give me a specific url that doesn't require me to click through a bunch of shit to find it. Link Here are the facts; 1. The debris was scattered over an 8 mile radius 2. The debris was blown into tiny pieces 3. Witnesses in the area reported to hear a loud explosion whilst the plane was still in the air, and seeing military jets None of this could occur, obviously, if the plane just crashed as stated. Here is an eye witness account of the plane getting shot down (audio). Link QUOTE("D. Silver") remember when you seen the plane hit the towers the plane tore apart the intregerty of the towers One fact that most people do not know is that these buildings were over engineered to withstand major storms, and yes, even large hits from major airliners. Link They were built with 47 enormous interior steel columns, together with 236 huge exterior columns, that were bolted and welded together with steel plates. Further there were steel trusses that criss-crossed which meshed over other exterior steel columns, plus there was diagonal bracing and steel rods connecting the trusses. There were also corrugated panes with poured concrete on every floor and all of this was anchored by a very deep and heavy foundation, overall roughly 200,000 lbs. Link The buildings were architecturally designed to absorb energy and a sway in storms, and according to witnesses who were in the building, relatively near to where the planes made contact, the towers briefly swayed for seconds as intended, other witnesses say that the noise and blast were significant but the tremor felt at the point of contact was minimal. A subcontractor for UL wrote a recent letter to the Feds, stating that he was involved in the testing of the World Trade Center steel, and that it would have withstood the fires, "The buildings should have easily withstood the thermal stress caused by pools of burning jet fuel." Kevin Ryan. Link QUOTE("D. Silver") the steel failed becauce of the impact of the plane. along with the heat generated in the fire(s) as a result. the fire proofing (foam) that was used on the truss and structural beams was inadaquate. It must also be remembered that large amounts of the jet fuel exploded outside of the building, the exterior columns were exposed to the air on three sides and naturally would dissolve heat at a fast rate, and the beams and columns were coated with fire proof materials. The official story is that the buildings came down at point of contact because the intensity of the fires caused the trusses to push out the columns, yet when viewed the hole created in the North Tower by the plane, there are only relatively small fires, and the heat cannot be excessive because you can see people standing out and staring out the opening. How did this person survive an 800ºC inferno? The top section of the South Tower began to tilt at approximately 9:59 am at this moment, suddenly a large amount of grey dust puffed out the building, the 35 stories of the top section continued to tip to 23 degrees past vertical. At this point the upper segment was hanging over the edge approximately at 65 degrees. In frame by frame pictures one can see the mushroom of grey cloud enveloping the building. As this is happening one can also see debris being blown away from the building with an obvious powerful blast. Then as the top section disappeared the whole 1350 foot tower came down in an incredible (estimated) speed of 10.4 seconds. The tower was then nothing but total pulverized remains. Government story is that this building experienced a compression or ‘pancake’ demolitions caused from weaken trusses and weight from above. At first this explanation sounds plausible. However common sense would indicate that the centre of gravity of the top section was not centered over the lower section. (Refer back to the link about the construction of the towers) Thus if there was a compression of the building, it would not be uniform because the center of gravity was considerably off center. Secondly, the severed top section that was tilting very much over the edge would fall somewhat independently. This is just common science and basic physics. Third this section would fall at a faster rate than the anchored lower section because it would not meet the residence of the non damaged lower sections of the tower. Fourth, the top and lower sections would break into pieces – they would not pulverize. None of these four things happened! QUOTE("futureman") you are being taken captive by a group with an agenda that has blossmed into a monster. beware of those who tell you what to think, as you say our government has done. think about this, which is easier? to make a country, a world, believe something that is not, or to make a small eager, anonymous group of interneters follow? When Rome was still a functioning republic Roman judges would always ask the question: Cui Bono? Or Who Benefits? When we ask ourselves this simple question we see: a) The arms dealers are selling hundreds of billions of dollars in new weaponry. Cui Bono? c) Aerial Sharon and his group of hard liner political Zionist are jumping for joy because they have been pushing the U.S for years to aggressively attack Arab nations. When Aerial Sharon said: “I don’t care what the American people think, I own the Congress!” this should create concern for all Americans, as he is probably correct. Cui Bono? d) The multi-national oil corporations have taken control of the rich Caspian oil fields and now have the eyes set on Iraq, followed by Iran etc… Cui Bono? e) The “elite” have always known that the freedom loving, god conscious people of the U.S were always going to be there biggest problem. With 9/11 many Americans have become so afraid and so confused that they are willing to turn over their rights for “promised security”. People have become enslaved by this bogus control mechanism. QUOTE("DesertDemon") You bring disgrace upon yourself and your family for dishonoring the victims and heros of 9-11 with your paranoid rhetoric. When the victim’s families are part of a nation wide movement which seeks to re-open the case of 9/11 but Bush & Co. have not given them any relief or answers, are they disgracing themselves? Fact is 47% of people in New York feel there is a 9/11 cover-up and many upon many feel 9/11 should be re-opened. Oddly enough the administration is refusing to open the case, why? I’m not sure, all the victims’ families want are some simple answers, but their not getting them. So in future refrain from narrow perspective statements, thanks. A 7 billion dollar legal suit has been brought against Bush and other governmental administrators by 400 hundred families who lost relatives on 9/11. Link The suit is claiming that Bush allowed the terrorist attacks to occur. QUOTE("D. Silver") every attempt to confuse the population is to side with terrorist thoughts, which you are, dirtys the flag. get on board son, get with the winning team. everyone knew and has knowen that we will be waging war with more of the middle east. syria and N korea and probally SA. do i give a shit. no. the reason why, the gov. would not have done a act to kill countless people, is the whole gov would have to be evil. someone would come forward, some one would do whats right and the gov. would have fallen and every gov. offical would be swinging from the street lights. get a grip get a clue guess ill stop my rant...but you know what we all have properganda filling our heads, but ill stick to the shit thats gonna help my country, my men, and my family. GOD BLESS THE USA AND THE SOILDERS THAT PROTECT HER! now go fuck ur self... The winning team? Siding with the terrorists? *sigh* again I ask are the families who are still looking for answers and who feel that the administration knew of the attacks are they terrorists …………… ? To be honest you don’t know what your talking about, you think you do but you don’t, go ahead and reply with something absurd like this post, but the fact is the PNAC documents predict future wars in the Middle East, saying such things as not allowing any other nation within these regions to build up, and securing the vast natural resources which exist there. I believe it says ‘revolution in these areas should take a long time, unless there is a sudden crisis of epidemic proportions, like a new pearl harbour’ Oddly enough these same people who wrote the PNAC document, which are now serving in the administration have called 9/11 ‘The New Pearl Harbour’. What they have done via their friends in the media is to manipulate your vulnerable emotions, and successfully tied Iraq and 9/11 together and have convinced the US people that Saddam is just as bad as Osama Bin Laden. And that’s exactly where you fall, I’m sure you listen closely to Bush & Co. about how to preserve America’s freedom. But like I said you don’t understand that this war has been in planning since the early 1990’s and 9/11 offers the perfect pretext. QUOTE("ScarFace") Eventually the rods were hot enough to bend which caused the whole floor with the jet to fall down. So you have this gigantic weight falling down to the next floor. Now this is were your explosions come in. Take a contrete block for example. Now put it under extreme pressure. The contrete EXPLODES into dust. This is exactly what you see in the videos off the building when it collapses. Each floor falls on top of another crushing it THUS CAUSING EVERYTHING TO EXPLODE OUTWARD. So the building collapses in a straight line just LIKE IT WAS INTENDED to do if an airplane crashed into it. Read what I posted above with regards to WTC capacity to withstand such unexpected circumstances. Just a note you may want to record the times in which the WTC’s fell. It will give you a very compelling answer. QUOTE("Druid") Do you belive the world is secretly ran by the Illuminati? Don't know how you come up with this craziness The facts Starting in 1979 the US gave funds to bin Laden to help Afghan resistance fighters, repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. This funding ended in 1984 al-Qeada wasn't formed until 1989 which is 5 years after the USA stopped funding the Afghan Resistance 1991 Bin Laden is expelled from Saudi Arabia due to his anti-government activities. 1996 The United States indicts bin Laden on charges of training the people involved in the 1993 attack that killed 18 U.S. servicemen in Somalia. 1998 The United States indicts bin Laden on charges of masterminding the attacks on U.S. embassies Now tell me how you connect the dots to claim al-Qaeda was founded, funded, and trained by our government. Lol, ok ………….. let me put it this way to you. Take a note of who is represented in the Council of Foreign Relations, go learn about the major world banks and which families control and operate them. Maybe then you may understand something, let me put it this way, when you own the big banks, the media, governments essentially you have more power to dictate world affairs. Again go research about the Bilderberg group and why all corporatist of the world attend this annual conference. As soon as the 9/11 events began unfolding the so called experts immediately showed up on TV, and guess what? Most of them are part of the Council of Foreign Relations or C.F.R. Link The C.F.R is the primary political organization of the “elite” in the United States and is described by former Senator and presidential candidate Barry Goldwater as: “An offshoot of a British secret society whose purpose is to destroy the sovereignty of the United States and create a One World Government” In 1979 the C.I.A initiated a massive program of covert military aid to indigenous Islamic tribes in Afghanistan and Islamic volunteers from other nations who were in opposition to the Soviet military invasion of that country. The Soviets had formed a coalition with several Afghani tribes from the North of that country (the Northern Alliance). The tribe that was supported by the C.I.A was called the Mujahadeen, Ronald Reagan termed them as ‘freedom fighters’ of central Asia, elements within the Mujahadeen later branched off to become Al’Qaeda, and again with full C.I.A support and funding. The leader of Al’Qaeda is Osama Bin Laden, who had been educated in Europe. Osama Bin Laden’s father was Sheikh Mohammad Bin Laden who founded and built Bin Laden Brothers Construction Company. It was later renamed to the ‘Saudi Bin Laden Group’. It should also be noted that from the early 1980’s Osama Bin Laden was a C.I.A asset, who’s Western cover name was Tim Osman. Link The Bin Laden family is one of the wealthiest in Saudi Arabia, and has built dozens of American military bases in the Middle East. The Bin Laden family is closely connected with the ruling Sheiks of Saudi Arabia, and have strong political connections around the world. The beauty about their relationship is that whenever a U.S embassy gets bombed it’s this very same company which builds them a new one. Link The Bin Laden family and the Bush family have been friends and business partners for many years. In 1977 George Bush Jr. started Arbusto Energy Co. in Midlen Texas. One of his first and major investors was Saleen Bin Laden who at that time had become the president of the Saudi Bin Laden Group. Saleen happened to be the older brother of Osama Bin Laden. Another interesting connection is Sheikh Khalid Bin Mahfouz. Mahfouz is one of the richest men in the world and also a major investor in Arbusto and was a business partner with George Bush Jr. He was also Operational Director of the corrupt B.C.C.I between 1986 and 1990 Link According to C.I.A director James Woolsey in testimony to the US senate in 1998, Mahfouz was a major contributor to Osama and Al’Qaeda, oh one more connection for you is; Mahfouz’s sister is Osama’s wife, what a big happy family. Al’Qaeda was involved in the bombings of the U.S Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 which killed 224 people. Al’Qaeda was also responsible for the suicide bombing of the U.S.S Cole which killed 25 American sailors in 2000. Yemen and Sudan offered to extradite Osama Bin Laden after the bombings of the embassies and the U.S.S Cole. However secretary of state Madeline Albright (who was appointed by Bill Clinton) refused to take Osama Bin Laden. Link Link John O’Neil was a deputy director of the F.B.I and resigned his post in disgust because of interference from both the Clinton and Bush administration in the investigation of Al’Qaeda. John O’Neil: “The main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were U.S oil corporate interests.” After stating this Mr. O’Neil had the misfortune to be hired as the Director of Security of the World Trade Center, starting his first day on the job on………. September 11th 2001, he was killed on that day. Link The United States government spends $40,000,000,000 of the U.S citizens tax money on the F.B.I, N.S.A, and C.I.A. These same organisations helped finance and create Al’Qaeda, and have been monitoring closely, the Taliban, Al’Qaeda, and Osama Bin Laden for the past decade. Yet all these government agencies with all their money, all their technology, all their superiority flatly state that they had no prior knowledge that such an attack would occur. This is all you need to know about that statement – utter and complete nonsense. After the attacks these same government agencies were rewarded with significant increases in funding and were lauded by the U.S administration and the press, this is completely disgusting. QUOTE("D. Silver") the term pull is in strict reference to pull man power from building seven, no man power was assigned to be inside operations so why say pull? answer just because there was no inside operations, outside opps ad inc comand was set up. notable man power that could be used. no ff opps were put in place and no FF attempts were made the building burned till it was unstable from falling debris and extreme heat took the tensile strength away from the steel. its a fact. No it’s not, as mentioned it is to demolish. Why pull? The World Trade Center land lease was sold to Mr. Larry Silverstein for $100 million just a short time prior to the attacks. He put a very large insurance premium on the complex even though the buildings were experiencing a higher than normal vacancies and had significant asbestos problems, strange behaviour to say the least. This man is now trying to get double the amount of his insurance coverage – $7.1 billion, which is not a bad return for something that was so “unexpected”. How much did he actually benefit? In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of World Trade Center 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in World Trade Center 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million! Speaking about following the money it was said several times after the weeks of 9/11 that there was large international deposits of gold bullion that were deposited in a huge vault in the basement of the World Trade Centers. Gold is a very heavy element and though it could melt it would not be pulverized. It has also been said that there was large digital deposits credited to the banks within the World Trade Center, hmm where did that gold go? Nobody seems to be saying anything. Say it with me – Bank Robbery. Link Here's the problem. You found all this non sense on the net and you decided to believe it. It's pretty obvious that you didn't even bother looking anything up. So now you think your a profenstional on all that shit just cause you managed to read pages full some made up shit? Guess what? You don't know anything. I don't know why but you decided to come here and repost all that shit from your links that you posted. So you have all this crap here and you can't back most of it up. Wow that's some good work there Detective Dipshit. ScarFace More ignorance on your part, If you would even read up on who and what people are pushing for 9/11 to be re-opened you would realise that; A – they know what their talking about B – they don’t gain anything from “brainwashing” people to believe 9/11 was allowed to happen Look what the government has gained, they now got to pass the Patriot Act as a result and again if you would do a little more research you would see that 9/11 has been orchestrated and the wars in the Middle East have nothing to do with “freedom preservation”. God how can people be so dumb! Get a clue then read something, geez to think that a couple of guys in a cave were able to orchestrate such an attack purely based on hatred of freedom (whilst it is evident that the government benefited a lot more as a result of the attack) is absurd. But hey the media is not about credibility anymore. I will be back soon ……………… |
Too Exclusive What REALLY happened on 9/11 02/14/05 8:23pm
ScarFace I knew about the Pentagon cover up but I didn... 02/14/05 8:51pm
Benny Hinn Conspiracy theories abound....
I skimmed briefly ... 02/14/05 9:57pm
Too Exclusive ahhh to hell with that article... we people at let... 02/14/05 10:18pm
Druid oh goody a debate.
unfortunately I've not the ... 02/15/05 5:42am
Benny Hinn The quote from Rumsfeld proves absolutely nothing,... 02/15/05 5:57am
Too Exclusive well those arent the only things... being as i gue... 02/15/05 6:36am
Benny Hinn I still don't agree that Rumsfeld's quote ... 02/15/05 8:31am
Silver wow... i have never read such BS in my life. the ... 02/15/05 9:37am
Too Exclusive alright first of all, the evidence we have for fli... 02/15/05 4:40pm
Silver
wow you really dont know shit. being a fireman f... 02/15/05 9:57pm
Too Exclusive i am NOT shitting on your brothers who died. 9/11 ... 02/15/05 4:46pm
Too Exclusive ur comment about building 7 can prove itself wrong... 02/15/05 11:28pm
futureman ask your questions here...
http://www.snopes.com/ 02/16/05 12:01am
Too Exclusive how about not. according to snopes, aluminum can j... 02/16/05 6:08am
futureman im just saying, im not certain you are using your ... 02/16/05 8:22am
eastbayguy whoa, didn't expect to see a topic like this p... 02/16/05 4:12pm
Silver wow... see i thought you did ur home work. the ste... 02/16/05 9:37am
Too Exclusive well what about building 7? NO PLANE HIT THAT. agi... 02/16/05 10:43am
Silver
dont know for sure i looked at 5 sites and all ... 02/16/05 11:39am
futureman it isnt a matter of just a fire. there was an air... 02/16/05 10:54am
futureman too,
you are being taken captive by a group with a... 02/16/05 11:06am
Silver the reason i say flight 800 was taken down by the ... 02/16/05 11:54am
futureman my guess is that "the movement" hasnt ac... 02/16/05 12:03pm
Too Exclusive what u mean holes? the movement is not 1 group of ... 02/16/05 3:43pm
DesertDemon Thats truly ridiculous, and yes you are a nut. Sha... 02/16/05 4:21pm
eastbayguy one more quick thing, the INTERNET is the only pla... 02/16/05 4:16pm
eastbayguy OK PEOPLE LISTEN UP!! Here is your 10 min... 02/16/05 4:23pm
Silver hey man, i've been nice but the 2 of you are c... 02/16/05 4:48pm
Too Exclusive here's a question for you... did u see any foo... 02/16/05 5:04pm
Too Exclusive and ive talked to the mother of a high-ranking cap... 02/16/05 5:08pm
behemoth Instead of going to some wacked out off the wall s... 02/16/05 5:08pm
Silver i didnt have to see a plane hit the pentagon. whil... 02/16/05 5:12pm
Too Exclusive well i keep an open mind. if u didnt notice i alre... 02/16/05 5:15pm
behemoth You spout off a lot of crap, but you never back it... 02/16/05 5:18pm
ScarFace
I have tried to keep an open mind but i... 02/16/05 5:24pm
Too Exclusive also the fact that we found no WMD's doesnt gi... 02/16/05 5:24pm
behemoth You heard eye witness reports huh. From where? D... 02/16/05 5:30pm
Silver he did read the article blk put up. the plane doe... 02/16/05 5:30pm
Too Exclusive you underestimate me. i know the WTC design. you... 02/16/05 5:43pm
behemoth
Are you a dumbass? I'm not the one who think... 02/16/05 5:51pm
Too Exclusive
http://www.911wasalie.com/phpwebsite/index...... 02/16/05 5:51pm
Silver
from the article i provided eariler.
first hand 02/16/05 6:06pm
ScarFace 80 Tons? Come on now, use your head for once.
76... 02/16/05 6:12pm
futureman here's a REAL conspiricy that you can get lost... 02/16/05 6:32pm
Too Exclusive maybe it was 180 tons... ill have to check that ou... 02/16/05 6:52pm
ScarFace Alright you must be borderline retarted because I... 02/16/05 7:23pm
Too Exclusive i am on subject... and btw noone believes a missil... 02/16/05 7:42pm
Silver iq means squat...i have a high iq actually higher ... 02/16/05 8:50pm
Druid 1st let me ask a few questions so we know where yo... 02/17/05 2:15pm
Druid Next we have
Don't know how you come up with... 02/17/05 2:50pm
Silver i love this guy.... 02/17/05 3:12pm
Too Exclusive
no
no
yes... do the research.
With that statem... 02/17/05 3:14pm
Druid Not impressed that the only sites you can link to ... 02/17/05 3:20pm
ScarFace I'm seriously begining to think that Mr. Exclu... 02/17/05 4:59pm
Too Exclusive hah... if u look at that 1st propaganda site i gav... 02/17/05 5:18pm
Too Exclusive http://infowars.com/Video/911/wtc7_pbs.WMV
watch ... 02/17/05 6:13pm
Silver the term pull is in strict reference to pull man p... 02/17/05 6:35pm
Too Exclusive that's the most ridiculous thing i've hear... 02/17/05 6:46pm
Silver
the incident command was established at all site... 02/17/05 7:48pm
Too Exclusive oh, 8 hours big woop... did you SEE those fires???... 02/17/05 8:26pm
ScarFace You are a fucking idiot. Are those buildings build... 02/17/05 9:01pm
Too Exclusive A PLANE DIDNT HIT BUILDING 7, DIPSHIT! i menti... 02/17/05 9:08pm
rocky_and_bullwinkle I havnt done much research on this topic, but I be... 02/17/05 10:27pm
aelphaeis_mangarae
Ahh no, the fire itself was extremely weak, the ... 02/17/05 10:28pm
ScarFace A paragraph one refers to the WTC as it is stated.... 02/17/05 10:34pm
Bargod I consider myself a conspiracy theory "buff... 02/18/05 4:49am
Too Exclusive alright what about building 7... do u believe thei... 02/18/05 5:33am
realdeal Well you certainly hold the record for the longest... 02/18/05 6:48am
Penny Alot of people will say why would he kill all thos... 02/18/05 6:49am
Silver wow i could have saved you all the trouble of post... 02/18/05 10:05am
Too Exclusive RE: What REALLY happened on 9/11 02/18/05 10:52am
Penny Here is a tip read the PNAC documents.
.. and I e... 02/18/05 8:19pm
Silver
i never said that. our gov had prior warning i h... 02/18/05 8:42pm
Druid Oh My god where to start.
How about Mr Exclusive.... 02/19/05 2:17am
Too Exclusive first of all, as for the stand-down... i do NOT kn... 02/19/05 2:35pm
Too Exclusive now your use of the word "propaganda"...... 02/19/05 2:41pm
Silver if u were to say that no steel framed building has... 02/19/05 3:04pm
Too Exclusive u just said there was an explosion. im talkin abou... 02/19/05 4:51pm
Silver gad line rupture does not mean explosion. it means... 02/19/05 5:55pm
Too Exclusive sorry for the misunderstanding... but still, think... 02/20/05 11:36am
Druid Hey exclusive
Maybe you should go back and check y... 02/20/05 12:13pm
Too Exclusive alright... ill give u guys that one for now...
but... 02/20/05 1:31pm
Silver thats called a flash over. the tempature in the ar... 02/20/05 2:15pm
Too Exclusive coincidence that it happened at the as the 2nd pla... 02/20/05 5:18pm
ScarFace Dude give it up. Haven't you noticed yet that ... 02/20/05 7:01pm
Silver it happened on all the areas that were involved in... 02/20/05 7:11pm
Druid So you will only concede me one point out of sever... 02/21/05 5:37am
Too Exclusive philip berg? if im not mistaking, that lawyer... 02/21/05 4:58pm
Too Exclusive o yea, and cruise speed for a jumbo jet is 180 MPH... 02/21/05 5:01pm
Silver OMFG dude USE the 3 IQ points u clam to have...if ... 02/21/05 5:19pm
Too Exclusive w/e the impacts werent even important. you guys st... 02/21/05 5:27pm
Silver seriously i thought (according to the program, the... 02/21/05 7:16pm
Druid
Not sure what your talking about but the Lawyers... 02/22/05 6:11am
Too Exclusive here's the transcript of the interview:
http:... 02/22/05 9:56am
Druid Nothing more than simple media grandstanding.
From... 02/22/05 1:56pm
Silver hey Druid...run for president...ill vote for ya... 02/22/05 2:50pm
Too Exclusive i dont get what u guys believe then... what about ... 02/22/05 3:33pm
holden_caulfield
a) I think you're seriously underestimating ... 02/23/05 9:37am![]() ![]() |
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