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[OvErKiLL]

hello MOB,

my name is OvErKiLL , my reputation is known over the mohaa community
as a respectful , but a no-nosense guy.

i've been in only a few clans

=]DoW[= ; {1CAB} ; <1st>Rangers Battalion ;
<<PF>> Phoenix Force ( co-founder)

and my new clan

i read your front page report on 7th , interesting as for the example you said about hiding and getting naded.
let me ask you one question on that matter. Have you ever known a place in a map occupied by enemy and known of a spot used in this occupation , and dump a blind nade with a kill result.

playing this game people pick this stuff up, a blind nade is not a cheat, but a gamble. which sometimes pays off.

Caine had to have conclusive evidence and niether admins could produce it.

your quiting OGL , was not a good example of a respectable clan which I thought you guys were.

you guys got alot of great guys in this clan.

i once posted a topic on 7th's method of covering a map and making you spawn in one spawn point and blanketing that point with fire ,so it is virtually impossible to over come them. I thought it a cheap tactic.
but as i played more competetive clans i seen it is a tactical move everyone tries to use , they only have perfected it.

i left <<PF>> and soon as i did Dirty Harry , even after my bashing them in OGL's forum , asked me to join up. I was against the thought at first ,but after looking at all the clans i choose to do it , only because i know these guys, they are like you and me , they hate cheaters and would do everything they could to help rid mohaa of all cheats.

you don't have to believe me and go on being sore. but if you ask around and find people who know me , they will tell you i would never be part of a cheating clan.

and i'm not. my game is defaulted so no one can accuse me , i don't even have custom maps.

this is probably a waste of my time but i felt you needed to hear it.

get over it , and move on. and next time someone or something like this happens , stand up brush yourselves off and try again.
don't tuck your tails between your legs and run away like cowardly dogs.

OvErKiLL ,over and out. (you can kill my connection to your forum now , i'm done)

[realdeal]

QUOTE (Whatever @ Feb 24 2003, 02:50 PM)

Harry also wrote to many of the clans that MOB played and asked what your tactics were on Destroyed Village. For example, (and tell me if I'm wrong), most of the responses indicated that as Allies you have a man go to the 2nd floor of the building over the ruins.  That man controls the ruins area, and everyone knows that for Axis to win you MUST control the ruins, so you wipe them out with the guy on the 2nd floor. The 7th had a man stationed at the bottom of the steps peeking around the corner at the door.  The same guy kept trying to take the 2nd floor and got nailed every time he entered the doorway.  Why?  Because he made SO much noise running up to the door the first few times.  I heard ALL of your players made a lot of noise running around the map.  Apparently it was humorous to the 7th that the #1 TDM clan made that much noise. The guy on the steps KNEW you were coming.  They received four responses telling them that the 2nd floor was your primary way of controlling the map.  The guy never took his eyes off that door. Many other email responses claimed that as Axis your main plan of taking Tank Street involved coming under the plank.  Again, the SAME MAN was posted to not let anyone come under the plank, and from what I hear he did a great job of nailing your people every time. He threw nades in the room under the plank KNOWING that you were going to try to take the area.  All you're thinking of is the nades that hit you.  Think of how many didn't because no one was there.  Hmmm, life revolves only around you? What you don't understand is that every other clan that was written to about MOB wrote back and gave exact details of your plans for Destroyed Village, and EVERY response claimed that they believed MOB was totally hacked up.  In fact, one clan leader said that during a match they had to shut Delator off, because two of your guys kept getting kicked from the server!!! You can't claim cheating when all it was was a great commander doing his homework on MOB.  They KNEW what your plans were. I don't know anything about Silver, so I can't help you there. Now the word is that MOB players are going onto the 7th server impersonating 7th Rangers Holiday, DirtyHarry and Thor and asking other Rangers for the RCON password.   Not cool, and close to illegal if you know the federal laws on server intrusion.   MOB for the first time couldn't use hacks, because they knew OGL admins would be there, and for the first time MOB got their butts kicked.  Is this why you're claiming cheating?  You were out-maneuvered on your own plans, and you logically think that it MUST have been cheating.  "There's no way they could know our plans.  They must have cheated."  When the other team knows exactly what you're trying to do, it means, they know exactly what you're trying to do.  Not cheating. And besides, your IP numbers are listed on theCheatPolice.com.  Look them up! Next time, have a fallback plan in case your only plan goes bad. What you should've done is stayed in OGL and went against them a 2nd time.  Then when you were beaten just as badly, you would know that it wasn't cheating. Nobody likes a quitter. Whatever

First off, who are you and why are you here? Now....

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What you failed to post about the 7th Rangers match was that their DirtyHarry was the FIRST to request to have OGL Admins spectate the match.   You made it look like MOB was not only first to request an admin, but the ONLY one to request an admin.  You are wrong.  The 7th requested it first.  Ask OGL.

No, we never said that the 7th did not request an admin. The email from the OGL Admin which I linked to on the hompage clearly indicates that the 7th had also requested an admin. Please get your facts straight.

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Like it or not MOB is known throughout the MOHAA community as being hacked up.  There are just too many people who have voiced this opinion.  People who have caught your guys with anti-cheat software.  MOB is listed on theCheatPolice.com for God's sake!

Actually, you'r dead wrong. Our members are totally against cheats. {MOB} FK and {MOB} Druid are some of the most active members in the MOHAA community looking for ways to catch and deter cheaters. In fact, Druid has asked OGL to enforce random screenshots.. something they refuse to do that would stop cheating. Here's the link if you're interested:
http://www.worldogl.com/forum/showthread.p...&threadid=15741

Additionally, I am sure you know the program MOHAA Counter Intelligence, well take a look at the "about" screen and see whos name scrolls through the credits... that's right, {MOB}Druid.

Not to mention the fix to stop people from spawning objects and crashing MOHAA servers. That patch file was released by {MOB}Druid.

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What you don't understand is that every other clan that was written to about MOB wrote back and gave exact details of your plans for Destroyed Village, and EVERY response claimed that they believed MOB was totally hacked up.

I would like to see ALL of these emails you speak of from clans that claim to know our tactics so well.

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In fact, one clan leader said that during a match they had to shut Delator off, because two of your guys kept getting kicked from the server!!!

Funny, I don't remember that. Maybe a copy of that email too while you at it.

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You can't claim cheating when all it was was a great commander doing his homework on MOB.  They KNEW what your plans were.

No, it was cheating but we have addressed that point as well. Not to mention the OGL admin who spectated the match also felt that they were cheating. If you missed that email, here's the link: http://www.mobclan.com/email.htm

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I don't know anything about Silver, so I can't help you there.

You have not been a help at all. Try a new crystal ball. Although I hear Ms. Cleo is back in business, maybe give her a call.

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Now the word is that MOB players are going onto the 7th server impersonating 7th Rangers Holiday, DirtyHarry and Thor and asking other Rangers for the RCON password.   Not cool, and close to illegal if you know the federal laws on server intrusion.

I don't know where you get your "WORD" from but I would like to see some proof of this and don't preach legal issues to me. If anyone in MOB was ever caught doing this they would be kicked out of MOB immediately. No questions asked.

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MOB for the first time couldn't use hacks, because they knew OGL admins would be there, and for the first time MOB got their butts kicked.  Is this why you're claiming cheating?

Why do you continue to talk out of your ass? We have asked that an admin spectate just about every 6vs6 match we have played.

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And besides, your IP numbers are listed on theCheatPolice.com.  Look them up!

Some links would be nice showing this information.

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What you should've done is stayed in OGL and went against them a 2nd time.  Then when you were beaten just as badly, you would know that it wasn't cheating. Nobody likes a quitter.

Yes, that sounds like a good idea. Stay in a league wherein the admin who spectates the match agrees that the other clan was cheating but cannot do anything about it. That makes a lot of sense.
Not only have we left, but we are in the process of forming the Anti-Cheat league with several other repsected clans so that we can have and ensure cheat free matches.