I'll bring it up.... Options

[Frosty]

So, how about the bombings in London today?

I'll tell you how I felt. I was filled with rage when I heard about them. I think 9/11 scared me because it was here on U.S. soil, but this pisses me off, maybe just because it's too far away for me to be immediately scared. I do not understand how people can do things like that. Last I heard the death toll was over 40, but that was this morning. 40 civilians.... I know it's nothing compared to 9-11, but still. The cowardice that it must take to kill innocent people to support a cause....

And what makes it worse is in my mind, I can see someone about 4 years from now telling everyone that it was the British government that planted all the bombs.... Sickening.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

[realdeal]

Your last post proves one thing. You are the type of person that is contributing in the ruination of this country. For any point that I made that you couldn't reply to, you ask if that's a fact or assertion. Then you continue on to call me racist. Hmmm.. let's see.. if 95% of the terrorist attacks in the world are carried out by Muslim men, it would make perfect sense to you to start investigating Japanese men for possible terrorism links.

I bet your the guy who thinks that racial profiling in this instance is wrong too. I'm sure to you it makes perfect sense for airport security to strip seach a 90 year old lady in a wheel chair right? We know what the enemy looks like, so why do pretend that we don't? Because it's not politically correct? PLEASE. This isn't the time to be politically correct.

Wake up and smell the roses.

Sounds like fear running amok. We're afraid that something bad will happen, let's lash out and get some "control" over arbitrary peoplel, most of whom have nothing to do with terrorism. Pretty drastic solution just so you can feel 'secure.'

Fear running amok? We're afraid something bad will happen? 9/11 was a wake up call. You're damn right I am afraid. These terrorists would love nothing more than to kill everyone in the U.S. and they don't hide this fact. They continually threaten the U.S. every chance they get. We're not supposed to be afraid? What then shall we do? Ahh yes, let's sit and wait to be killed. Awesome idea.

There are priorities and ideas to preserve.

Yes there are. But it is times like these where we may need to re-evalutate some of our ideas and priorities.

Yea RD. I'm posting from Palestine as we speak. Hold on a sec, my turban is faling off. Jesus. More racism. And you had the righteousness to reign in theGhost on Noobian's thread.

Oh jeez... from California... That explains alot

What preventive measures would you suggest? You seem to disagree with most of my ideas, so let's hear yours.

What are some of your ideas and suggestions?

[holden_caulfield]

Nobody said not to be afraid. I said fear running AMOK--a phrase which means that we are letting our fears get the better of us, cloud our judgment, etc. As in, cold reason should dictate policy, not your fears.

So calling a racist a racist is... destructive? I don't know, you sidestepped that one again. You're pretty nimble.

Racial profiling and internment are two different things. It is well within the law to investigate suspicious people. Ninety year old Japanese ladies don't arouse suspicion, so I don't know why you suggested we go and search them. Terrorists are Muslim men around 20-30 years of age. Generally, the people we investigate will fall under that category. I see no problem with that. If that's racial profiling, then so be it. It's pragmatic.

Pragmatic is not interning the entire arab population or nuking entire regions of the world.

Real, you have a twisetd sense of "this country", and if I happen to be destructive to such an image, then I'm making this world a better place.

[realdeal]

So calling a racist a racist is... destructive? I don't know, you sidestepped that one again. You're pretty nimble.

Does what I posted in this thread make me a racist in your mind?

Is it racism to identify who our enemy is and to try and combat it? Has this country gotten so politically correct that this thread offends certain people to the point where they need to call others racist?

Was President Truman a racist for dropping the nuclear bombs? Sure we were at war with Japan, but certainly not EVERY Japanese citizen agreed with the war, yet they were killed by the bombs. They were victims of the unfortunate thing called "collateral damage" -- yup, I said the "C" word. Enough to send shivers down the spine of any good Liberal. Yet, collateral damage is a fact of war. That's one reason that makes war so serious. If my loved ones were killed in Japan during the bombings would I be happy having their deaths termed "collateral damage" no I wouldn't, but that's what they would have been. That's what it's called when innocents are killed in war. Like it or not.


So you have no idea on how to deal with terrorism yet you call my ideas laughable. Okay.

[holden_caulfield]

Yes, making a distinction between two equally legal groups of citizens based on race and then segregating them is racist. Somehow, the fact that arab-americans are arabs means that their rights will be stripped from them.

I'm not offended by your racism. Be as racist as you want, nobody is going to stop you.

Once again, pay attention to my post. The bulk of this debate concerns American citizens, not foreign civilians who happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Your ideas are laughable, and I have no qualms calling them such. Whether I have an answer of my own or not doesn't make your ideas any less laughable.