| Blakjak |
07/03/05 4:06pm
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If anybody has acces to the NY Times magazine available with the sunday NY Times should read the article about separation of church and state in there, it's a very interesting proposal.
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| Frosty |
07/08/05 8:37pm
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And Marxism never worked....
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| holden_caulfield |
07/09/05 12:46am
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Actually, communism never worked.
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| Frosty |
07/09/05 9:46am
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QUOTE(holden_caulfield @ 07/09/05 12:46am) And Marxism has succeeded? That's actually an honest question; I know it's not strictly a form of government, but many have argued that while communism has failed, Marxism would work. -------------------- ![]() |
| holden_caulfield |
07/10/05 8:11am
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Oh I don't know about that. I was taught that Marxism is strictly an ideology, whereas communism is its implementation (sad attempts for the most part). Most people remember his socio-political philosophy, and those are the terms that stick with us--means of production, superstructure and base, proletariat, etc. But he also had a very interesting idea of how human history unfolded, how it was cyclic and yet, at the same time, not cyclic.
A few quarters back I took a class on literary criticism and I was surprised to find out that not only has Marxism has heavily influenced contemporary literary criticism, but that its influence continues to this day. Marxist theorists are a dime a dozen, so I hear. So to me Marxism hasn't completely failed. Though his final vision was flawed, the ideas that got him there are still being used today. There was an awesome website which described this literary school (and lots of other literary schools), but I lost it. Sloppy seconds will have to do. Maybe ML knows more about Marx? Just a guess. |
Blakjak NY Times Magazine article 07/03/05 4:06pm
holden_caulfield
Didn't they just start charging customers to... 07/03/05 4:55pm
Blakjak I get the actual paper, no idea about online. 07/03/05 6:24pm
Druid holden_caulfield you can register for free to read... 07/04/05 12:43am
holden_caulfield Thanks Druid. I used my existing account. (I could... 07/04/05 1:04am
Druid Holden BJ is talking about this
http://www.nytimes... 07/04/05 2:27am
Blakjak I found the coercion argument very convincing. I ... 07/04/05 10:41am
holden_caulfield According to Feldman, I fall under the legal secul... 07/04/05 3:55pm
Blakjak Holden it's just a matter of coercion. I woul... 07/06/05 3:58pm
holden_caulfield This is somewhat oblique, but I never understood t... 07/06/05 8:41pm
Silver group prayer = stronger faith (i guess)
im not b... 07/06/05 11:32pm
Frosty Group prayer is about unity among Christians. A gr... 07/07/05 4:21am
Druid We have openly discussed politics forever, now we ... 07/07/05 4:40am
Frosty It is actually possible to have a civil discussion... 07/07/05 9:19am
Silver i wasnt talking i was rattling...sorry ill leave n... 07/07/05 10:35am
holden_caulfield Opiate for the masses is all it is... 07/08/05 2:45pm
holden_caulfield And I wasn't making a dig at all you religious... 07/09/05 12:48am
Frosty Oh, yes. Especially in Latin America, Marxist infl... 07/10/05 8:28am
holden_caulfield Yeah I completely agree with. Marx didn't unde... 07/10/05 10:10am
Blakjak That was communism's greatest downfall, beside... 07/10/05 11:58am
Frosty
lmao, too funny!
And yes, Communist literatu... 07/10/05 1:01pm
holden_caulfield
Freud could BS his way around anything and keep ... 07/10/05 1:14pm![]() ![]() |
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