I'll bring it up.... Options

[Frosty]

So, how about the bombings in London today?

I'll tell you how I felt. I was filled with rage when I heard about them. I think 9/11 scared me because it was here on U.S. soil, but this pisses me off, maybe just because it's too far away for me to be immediately scared. I do not understand how people can do things like that. Last I heard the death toll was over 40, but that was this morning. 40 civilians.... I know it's nothing compared to 9-11, but still. The cowardice that it must take to kill innocent people to support a cause....

And what makes it worse is in my mind, I can see someone about 4 years from now telling everyone that it was the British government that planted all the bombs.... Sickening.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

[realdeal]

Now I KNOW I'm wasting my time....

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/catcher/terms/char_1.html

[TheGhost]

Now I KNOW I'm wasting my time....

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/catcher/terms/char_1.html

Real i could've told you that. Holden Caulfied = naive child who doesnt want to grow up and open his eyes to the world around him. I did a Character Analysis Essay for english on him. OFF TOPIC** But Catcher In The Rye is a good book.

[holden_caulfield]

Well I guess this fun little trip to crazyland is winding down so I'll just wrap up my comments here, unless one of you guys (ghost?) posts something so provocative or insulting that I'll just HAVE to respond. Or not, we'll see.

lol. Say what you want, but Catcher in the Rye kicks ass. At least theGhost can recognize good literature.

I like Holden Caulfield for his naive idealism, his ironic bitterness, and the gusto with which he condemns the world. Hence the handle. Yeah, he has his flaws, and his blindness is a central theme, but that just adds to the greatness of the book. Well, that's the whole point really. Do I walk around with a red hunting cap? No. Well, only if I'm playing MOH. And even then it's to keep me warm.

You'll have to scroll down that link to find the red hunting cap bit. Sparknotes, by the way, kicks ass. But all you guys in school probably know that.

RD you have wasted your time--indeed you are still wasting your time--but unfortunately, that's all your own doing. I suppose we are too instransigent, and I suppose we can both be thankful that neither of us are in power. But I still have to deal with Bush, so I think you end up ahead there. *shrug. He'll be gone soon enough.

People, I am a liberal, not a democrat, and there's a subtle difference. Liberals possess a philosophy. Democrats are the people who (try to) implement that philosophy the best way they see fit. A lot of times they fuck up, and I coudln't agree with you guys more about PC crap and the Koran abuse. It's a fucking book!!! Same for the bible or even Catcher in the Rye. A fucking book. But if you could read only one of those two, go spend some time with Holden.

But if you read the bible, go with the King James. Pretty english.

Some dems go too far on certain issues. Doesn't mean I'm going with them (affirmative action, for instance). Religion. ugh.



Silver, I've pretty much ignored all your posts because, believe it or not, they are more outlandish than RealDeal's. But to completely ignore you wouldn't be nice so I'll just respond here. Nuclear bombs do not "level mountains." They don't even completely level dense cities residing in between mountain valleys (nagasaki). Are you aware of how much mass a mountain has? The rest of your claims will have to stand as they are (remember that arab clerk who disappeared on sept. 10?), for which I apologize to the rest of the community. I am drained. (Sorry, I don't know how to convey that thought with any more "depth").

Criticizing another's ideas doesn't mean I have to come up with one of my own. Surprisingly, a lot of people get really caught up over this. They say, "Hey, you're such a critic but you can't even do better!" Well, Plato had something to say about this in "The Republic." You know, that part which... currently eludes me. But it's there, you'll recognize it immediately when you read it.

It's not like I said, "Your idea is lame, I can do better," and then failed to deliver anything. No, I never promised anything, though I think that if I tried, I really could do better (I find your idea just that bad). Why can't people just accept that the merits of one man's ideas is independent of whether the critic has any ideas of his own?

It's like we're all gazing at this enormous and complex differential equation--mystified--when suddenly RealDeal and co., blurt out that the answer is... 24 degrees Celsius. But it can't be, and so I'm just telling you that you need to check your answer, maybe take a closer look at how you got there. I don't have the solution--but I know that you can't be right, because you're not even coming up with the right units.

That was an analogy. Obviously I'm not God-like, I don't "know" the right or wrong answer, but I feel strongly you are nowhere near it, and I think I was fair in telling you why.

I mean, nuking the Middle East? I give it an A for boldness.

Druid, I guess we'll leave flag burning up to the states.

FlashGirl, I don't know you, except by that longass thread you started. But airport security is a joke. And like I said, racial profiling, if done right, isn't such a bad thing. There, another departure from "liberalism." It sucks when they hassle you, make you take off your shoes. I lost my Giants cap because of that. Bastards. Fuckin' Giants...

Frosty--right on man, write on.

And Ghost, you get pretty fired up. I'm just suggesting that you go back and read every single one of your posts, then try to find out where you built your arguments. I don't think you did. Lots of ranting and emotion and unjustified claims. At least Real had syllogisms to work with.

Real, when we get hit again, I hope it's in my neck of the woods too. That way I can use it to leverage my arguments and justify my racism!

Pretty ridiculous thing to say, if you think about it. Pretty punitive. A civilized way of saying it would be, "I hope you could understand things from my perspective as a NY citizen who witnessed 9/11 firstand." Sans the "I hope it happens in your backyard!" Now that would have been diplomatic and respectable.

When we get hit again I hope it's in your neck of the woods in C.A.

Classy. But you're just telling it like you see it.

[<Dolphin>*Girl*]

"Real, when we get hit again, I hope it's in my neck of the woods too. That way I can use it to leverage my arguments and justify my racism! "

This just goes to show the lack of intelligence there! Kinda hard to prove a point DEAD!!!!

Its not racism, when they are trained for this their whole lives...It's insane...While our children are being taught manners, education, and are being trained for a working world, They are over their being trained to hate, racism, and blowing us up...This goes way beyond rasicm...Of course you're to blind to see that...
They are an army that has been trained to HATE! Race doesn't come in to play...Its just so happens they are muslim...

I am half Syrian and I agree nuke the B... Yes, there would be innocent lives taken, but what about all the innocent lives they have already taken and are still threatening to take more of them, including our schools, how much more innocent can you get...Sorry I don't want to be the one to get that phone call...So what do we sitting around and wait see how many more they kill...

Real, i'm with u all the way!!!

This post has been edited by <Dolphin>*Girl*: 07/10/05 9:14am