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post 08/08/05 5:45pm
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Here's an honest question. I hope you guys don't think that asking questions is terrorist-like behavior.

If it's in Muslim religion to hate christians and to kill them, why have terrorism/suicide bombers/terrorist attacks only been going on for 20 years, when Islam and Christianity have been around for thousands of years?

I hope you guys can actually ANSWER this instead of jumping at my throat and telling me to shut the fuck up like you usually do.

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post 08/09/05 7:14am
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QUOTE(Frosty @ 08/09/05 4:06am)
It is.... It tells them to kill the infidels, but to spare the people of the book (Christians and Jews). But, if after a time to hear about Islam they do not willingly convert, then they are to be considered infidels and killed. Most Muslims will argue against this, saying that since I don't speak the original language of the Qu'ran that all its meaning was lost in translation, but that is BS.
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yea but u dont speak arabic, you don't know that for a fact. the whole thing about killing the "infidels" and shit, that's all the media's doing. Immortal Technique said it best "Jesus is the most quoted profit in the Quran."
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QUOTE(Too Exclusive @ 08/09/05 7:14am)
yea but u dont speak arabic, you don't know that for a fact. the whole thing about killing the "infidels" and shit, that's all the media's doing. Immortal Technique said it best "Jesus is the most quoted profit in the Quran."
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That first statement is utter BS. Any language, especially one as widely known as Arabic, can be translated effectively into any other language. If there's a section that is difficult to render, then you can attach a footnote to explain it more fully (example: there is no english word that fully conveys the full force that this arabic word does.... *explanation*). They tell you that it can't be rendered in any other language because it's a convenient way for them to get out of having to explain why the slaughter of non-muslims is ordered. When I interviewed an imam of a local mosque after September 11th, he always used that excuse on the difficult passages instead of explaining what they suppoisedly mean.

The media hasn't told me anything about Islam that I use. I know about Islam because I've studied it myself, not because some TV news channel teaches me things about it. And "infidel" is indeed used in the Qu'ran, despite your misgivings about the media. But wait, the arabic word meaning "someone who does not believe in Allah" can't be rendered into english as "infidel," can it? That's stupid.

Jesus is "quoted" in the Qu'ran, yet much is distorted. Case in point is that the Qu'ran denies that Jesus claimed to be God. It denies that he is the messiah, which Jesus claimed to be. It denies that he claimed to be the final "prophet" of God until the end times. The Qu'ran strips away the main purpose of Jesus' ministry and only uses a couple of good teachings of his to give the book a bit more legitimacy.

I know a lot more about Islam than you seem to think I do....

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Too Exclusive   Just a question   08/08/05 5:45pm
realdeal   Shut the fuck up. :) You need a history lesson...   08/08/05 7:09pm
Too Exclusive   yea, but my point is, u didn't have terrorism ...   08/08/05 7:18pm
TheGhost   yea, but my point is, u didn't have terrorism...   10/15/05 4:15pm
Maj. H8Red   until we founded Al Qaeda in the early 80s. We f...   10/15/05 4:29pm
Silver   please do the word a favor, turn gay or get castra...   08/08/05 7:29pm
realdeal   Vague reference? What are you smoking? You need ...   08/08/05 7:36pm
Too Exclusive   Israel is a good point. but Israel is a completely...   08/08/05 8:51pm
Undertow   History lesson. We did not take away from the ara...   08/08/05 9:11pm
Frosty   I'll tell you why there haven't been as ma...   08/08/05 9:34pm
Too Exclusive   yea but the propaganda tells us that they hate chr...   08/08/05 10:34pm
Frosty   It is.... It tells them to kill the infidels, but ...   08/09/05 4:06am
Too Exclusive   yea but u dont speak arabic, you don't know t...   08/09/05 7:14am
Frosty   That first statement is utter BS. Any language, ...   08/09/05 10:03am
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