Movie Review, I finally saw Fahrenheit 911 Options

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It was on cable so I watched it with my wife.

I should point out that I am as much a fan of Michael Moore as I am of our current President, holding neither in high regard.

I think Moore over-reached when portraying our President as a moron. The President himself brags about being nothing more than a 'C' student in college, I didn't see the point in reiterating this point over and over again.

I was disturbed by the blatant display of corporate greed by Haliburton, a company that will make billions on the backs of soldiers making $1200 a month and make a bunch of Bush's friends millionaires many times over in the process. Where are the 'outraged' Republicans that just couldn't live with themselves knowing that friends of the Clintons made $117,000 on the Whitewater deal? I am surprised that Moore did not capitalize on this fact.

For the most part, I thought the movie was foolish. Over and over again we saw pictures of Bush with the Saudi's. I am sure there are just as many pictures of Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter and every other modern President with the Saudi's, for no other reason than they were/are our allies.

I also thought it was foolish to ask Senators and Congressmen to volunteer their children for military service. I surmise he would have gotten the same reaction if he stood outside any Fortune 500 company headquarters.

Following the marine recruiters was just plain retarded. These guys are doing their jobs and for a lot of people, the military is a very attractive option. He made a big deal of the recruiters avoiding a suburban mall and going to the hood instead. Did he really think the 'priveleged' kids look forward to a military career?

All in all, the movie was ok, not great, not bad. Too much opinion and not enough facts.

One more thing, I will give $100 to the first person that finds the cunt who claimed that poor woman's grief was staged and punches her in the face and kicks her in the ovaries so she can never procreate. I have never in my life seen such cruelty spew from a human mouth. At that point in the movie I was disgusted to share the same air as my fellow American.

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Cypher

[Druid]

I have to laugh anytime someone talks about Clinton's budget surplus,
Can you tell me what Clinton did to create the surplus.
I'll tell you nothing, it was a simple result of the decade long bull market and the rate the economy grow during his term, which translates into higher tax revenue.
Also it's the congress that spends the money which had a Republican majority for most if not all of Clinton's 2 terms. History shows the 6 months before he left office the economy was already heading for the tank.

Leave Reagenomics alone.
The figures can be cooked either way depending on how they look at it but Reagen did a fantastic job. The biggest reason we had the deficit we did when Reagen left office was because he lacked the line item veto to cut pork spending added to almost every piece of legislation he had to sign.
Reagen could of done for America what he had just done for California if it wasn't for his inability to cut congressional spending.
When Reagen became Governor of California it's budget deficit was over 30 Billion ( this was more than all other states combined ). Within a few years Reagen changed the deficit to a surplus. This was done in two ways, a temporary tax increase and using the line item veto countless times to cut unneeded spending.

One of my favorite Reagen witticisms that he was so well known for.
When he was campaigning for Governor, his opponent enlisted help from Senator Kennedy who went on the speaking tour. Kennedy would open his speech with ""Reagan has never held any political office before and here he is seeking the top spot in the government of California."
Needless to say Kennedy never said that again after Reagen publicly replied with
"Well, you know, come to think of it, the senator from Massachusetts never held ANY job before he became a senator."

LMAO

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I have to laugh anytime someone talks about Clinton's budget surplus,
Can you tell me what Clinton did to create the surplus.
I'll tell you nothing, it was a simple result of the decade long bull market and the rate the economy grow during his term, which translates into higher tax revenue.
Also it's the congress that spends the money which had a Republican majority for most if not all of Clinton's 2 terms. History shows the 6 months before he left office the economy was already heading for the tank.

Conservatives can't have it both ways. They can't say, "Clinton was not responsible for the budget surplus," then, when Bush is cited for a lagging economy, turn around and blame Clinton for the economic downturn which Bush "inherited." Nonsense.

But it also doesn't make sense to suggest that the president, because he does not directly control the budget, is therefore not responsible for the economy. It's like saying that, because Congress has the power to declare war, ratify treaties, etc., the president has no control over foreign policy. In reality, he has the greatest control.

And the same goes for the budget. First, he sets the agenda for his party, and, through public and political influence, works to achieve these means. He can also veto the opposition's legislation, and so he does have a hand in how Congress spends money.

Just look to history as to how a president's influence can shape the economy, and compare the attitudes of Hoover and Roosevelt during the Depression.

EVEN so, if we buy the idea that Congress alone controls what we spend, we've had a solid Republican majority in both the House and the Senate for two terms now, and so far, nothing impressive has come about.