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[S8Snowy]

Half my clan got banned from your server, believe me none of us use hax (cept for brittle). We were not hacking just strait up owning, but rawk was layin the smack down. Our clan is section 8 and our tag is §8|. 8.9.4.75:28960 thats the server we got banned from.


This post has been edited by S8Snowy: 12/14/05 1:31pm

[Druid]

The explanation you asked for.

Two people contacted me asking me to check out the S8 players in the server. One person was MOB the other was a player who plays on our server all the time.

I jumped on the server for the sole purpose of watching you guys play.
BTW when I watch a player I'm looking for signs of proof they aren't cheating as much as looking for proof they are cheating. Unfortunately the map was Moscow which is one of the harder maps to spot a cheat on because it's so open.

The 1st person I watched was bash since he had the best score. I saw nothing to point one way or the other, but right after I moved to watch the next player, Bash responded to someone saying they should go download their own cheats to fight back. Not the smartest thing he could of said. I understand he was probably joking but it didn't help.
After this I didn't pay attention to individual players names, I just went to the next person with the S8 tag.
I rotated between specing all of the S8 players several times while on the server.
The two things that stood out were.
1) One players who several times in a row would throw nades where other players were that he couldn't see.
I'm not talking about random nade spamming, but only when a player was there in out of the way spots, not once when there wasn't a players there.
At the same time, twice he was running around with the pistol , both times switching to the PPSH as he was about to come up to an Axis player he couldn't see. Once running across the map to the main building but not switching to the PPSH when entering the building but waiting until he was about to come around the corner where an axis was camping.
2) Another player who several times would quickly fire from the destroyed building to the large one where snipers usually camp at. What was strange is he never spent any time watching the building, the only time he played it any attention is right when an Axis had walked up the steps and was moving to the window.
As soon as an Axis made it to the window, boom they where dead. If there was no axis in the room he went back to killing in the courtyard. Yet several times in a row soon as an axis made it up the stairs to the room, before they were even in view he would turn and seem to get ready to kill them as they approached the window.

I didn't consider either of these definitive signs of cheating, as both examples could be racked up to luck, communication via TS, just to name a few.
Overall I found it suspect especially after the remark of how a player should go download their own cheats to fight back.
I was on my way out when I was asked to check the server. I made the decision with the limited time I had.
Which is why in my 1st reply I only said suspect, and was welcome to come back once AC was added to the game. I didn't saw anything about "I caught you guys hacking"
It simply came down to me being unwilling to let you guys continue to play when I had to leave with questions raised by what I saw and how you guys acted in the server.

I was willing to give you the benefit of doubt, which is why I asked for your website. If you where from a established clan, more than likely you wouldn't of been in the server cheating but the only response you were willing to give was to tell me to fuckoff.

As for the complaint you weren't warned to not stack teams. I'll answer your question with a question.
Does a server need to run messages telling people not to cheat, or not to team-kill when FF is on?
No, of course not.
I think you will find most public server like ours, doesn't support or appreciate clans stacking teams when they join a server, then bragging about it how they are running it.

Something else you should keep in mind, stacking teams commonly leads to cheat complaints do to many people will think the reason you stick to one team is because you're cheating.
I don't know if you noticed or not but two different people said as much while you were in our server.
Either way, over time it will give your clan a bad name because it makes you look very unsportsmanlike.

One way our server does differ from many servers is we allow spawnkilling as we see it as part of the game, while many servers do not. On this point we do run a message saying as much.