Happy Anniversary, New-N-Improved MOB Options

[Druid]

Well, about a year has gone by since MOB moved to their new more secure website. I though it would be fun to look back on all the little lies, manipulations an acts of stupidity which prompted the website move. Then take a closer look at some of the lies, manipulations an acts of stupidity which took place after the move an still continue to this very day. I ask you, is there any better way to celebrate this important anniversary?
The single biggest problem is I don't know where to start. There has been so many examples, ranging from little white lies all the way to killer sized tsunami waves of stupidity and pettiness.
I guess the best place to start would be a review of what has already been covered, that way anyone who is needs to, can catch up if they're interested.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16643
Then of course there is my personal favorite, the "NEW AND IMPROVED" sever rules to go along with their new website.
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16689
I don't think the next one is quite as funny but I find it very telling that even now, a whole year later, not a single person has been able to point out anything I said which wasn't the truth.
So I give you "Druid the master manipulator"
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...showtopic=16716

Now that I've covered all the old humorous dirty dealings that went on behind the scenes. I find myself unsure of where to start. While the majority of this will be to poke fun at the new MOB leadership, it brings up a serious point concerning the original MOB leadership.
Right after the new Admins moved the website, RealDeal contacted them about removing the main page. Which BTW he had every right to do, as he paid for an did the original customization to the theme and template the site was based on. Mike tried his best to get in a pissing match with RealDeal, claiming RD had no right to request the main page on the new sight to be removed. Mike flat out refused to do it because as he put it "RealDeal had never legally registered any copyright". Big talk coming from Mike but long story short, Mike was a good little boy an did exactly as he was told. In less than 48hrs, the copied website material was removed. Unlike most everything else which I bring up in fun, I bring this up for a serious reason. I know right after this happened there was a discussion about RealDeal. Lot's of stupid remarks made about him. I also know few people stuck up for him as they discussed with me how disappointed they were with what was being said concerning RealDeal.
For those who knew RealDeal and had the balls to stick up for him, good for you. This doesn't concern a lot of people in MOB because many are newer members and don't know RealDeal, so I wouldn't expect you to side one way or the other. After all, the current admins did a fantastic job of keeping most of you in the dark about what was going on and why. This is for those few people who have been around long enough to know RD deserved better, but lacked the balls to stand up an say so. Who needs enemies with friends like you. For those few people who still don't get it, I'll let you in on a little secret. Although RealDeal had quit the clan a long time ago, he frequently lurked the forums ( private and public ) so he knew what was going on. Although we didn't discuss it beforehand, I doubt he made his request about removing the website material copied from this site to the new one because he particularly cared about. I think he did it as a show of loyalty to me, because he knew the false accusations an stupid excuses used by the current admins were bullshit. What you so conveniently failed chose to overlook is he's the kind of guy who would have done the exact same thing for you if you had found yourself in my position. So remember and think about this for those who didn't have the balls to speak up for RealDeal, without a doubt, he would have done better by you than you did by him.
For the newer players who this doesn't directly concern, remember this. There would be no MOB today if it wasn't for RealDeal who keep the clan running through several difficult times. Plus the fact he paid to keep the servers open even when he knew he was about to leave. Some of you have been around for a long time and never or rarely donated to keep MOB going.
While RealDeal paid out $600 over his last two month to keep the servers open because he wanted to give MOB a chance to survive. How did people repay him? Took it upon themselves to make up reason why he didn't deserve something as minor as a forum account on the new site.
( I know there are some people who can't financially afford to regularly donate, full time students living on a razor thin budget, that's understandable, I'm talking to the other people. )
Some of you and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about, are nothing but fucking ingrates. So be sure to wear that badge with pride because you've earned it.
I would really love for someone with enough backbone to explain something to me. How is it Silver who created so many problems his last few months with MOB. Then continued to create even more problems after leaving had his account validated without a second thought. Yet, Realdeal the only founding member still around who only asked Mike to removed the website template ( which RD had every right to do ), was quickly deemed unworthy to have a measly forum account validated.
And just think, you guys still call yourselves MOB.



Now that we've got that bit of nastiness out of the way, we can focus on the more humorous aspects of the NEW & IMPROVED MOB "Year end Review"

Most individuals or groups set themselves apart from everyone else through their originality. The difference with the new and improved MOB is they set themselves apart by their almost total lack of originality. No, I'm not talking about the prime example of how they still call themselves MOB even after they turned their back on most of the things which made MOB the great clan it used to be. That's okay, as it's a source of great entertainment for me. I'm actually talking about all little things such as:
* Mike and Steel crying about how they didn't copy the website when they moved it. Here we are a year later and the code of conduct is still almost word for word what RD wrote over 6 years ago. Even though much of it no longer applies like it did when it was written, the only change Steel made is removing the part which said "Remember.... FUN and FRIENDS are ALWAYS more important than winning!!"
Why did she did she remove something as positive and timeless as "Remember.... FUN and FRIENDS are ALWAYS more important than winning!!". The reason is simple. After I mentioned how that's what MOB use to be about, she threw one of her little hissy fits she's gotten to be so famous for. So, out of childish spitefulness she removes that line from the code of conduct. You have to admit it's pretty damn funny one of the few examples of Steel showing any originality after moving the website was to remove the motto from the code of conduct page. I really wish someone over at the New & Improved MOB had the balls to put Steel on the spot an ask why she felt the need to remove MOB's Motto.
How could she possibly answer the question without making a fool of herself?
* Although this one no longer exist, it was one of my favorites. Did anyone else notice after the move, the "Files" link on the front page of the new site didn't work? For 8 months the main page had a broken "Files" link on the top navigation bar. The reason this was so funny is because when she made the link it was already bad. So you tell me how incredibly funny is it Steel took the time to make a "Files" link on the new site just because there was one at mobclan.com even though the link was bad. Then even better, she didn't bother to fix it for 8 months.
* The Regs which have always been an important part of MOB, wouldn't exist if it hadn't been for me. So tell me again exactly what original idea you've brought to MOB which made it better? Oh that's right, you guys did come up with that stupid idea about people wearing the MR tags for 30 days then automatically brought into the regs. One of your few original ideas and it was such a disaster you finally did away with it. I got a huge laugh when I was told about a welcome post on your forum for a Reg who had never posted on the forum and according to the game tracker had only been on the server for a total of 11 hours. Could you guys look or act any more desperate than to make someone a Reg that quickly. Did you guys take any time to consider the implications? The Regs use to be important, the backbone of MOB. The quick nearly automatic inclusion you guys were doing watered down the value of being a REG to almost nothing.
* It cracks me up that the private password to the servers is still set to the same password I set over 3 years ago. Then again it's not like the private password is important anymore. Out of 6 servers, not a single one gets full, so it would be kind of pointless to change it. I remember back when one of the best parts of being a REG was getting the private password to the servers, because you could get right even when the servers were full.
* I see you still use the user group colors RealDeal setup 5 years ago ( Red for Regs and Blue for MOB ). Not that it's a big deal, just one of those things I find funny.
Pretty much the same thing with the forum itself. You started over form scratch with a new forum but did your best to copy everything exactly as possible from the forums at MOBclan. It always amuses me whenever I check the new forum an see the Opera section which started out as my personal forum to poke fun at the stupidity going on in the gaming world. You know, kind of like this. So while we're on the subject, please do me a favor an add a link to this post in your Opera section.
Thank You.





Shred & BLAM

Here is a little sampling of the dishonest dealings involving Shred and Company. Before we get into this one I feel the need to explain something. I understand some of the simpletons who read this will fall back to the position, I'm only saying this because Shred and I are both ex-MOB so I would automatically take his side. Not only is that bullshit, it's just plain stupid. The only reason you jump to that conclusion is because you'll gotten so use to making excuses for MOB's current leadership, it's become 2nd nature for you. There are several issues Shred and I disagree on. For example, Shred and I have a huge disagreement concerning Silver. Also, I previously said in public , I thought he was wrong in the way he handled things in the weeks following his departure from MOB ( complaining about it on the BsS forum, etc. ). While Shred may have handled the situation poorly, in all fairness to Shred it never should have been an issue to start with.
Do you guys remember what started the whole thing with Shred,
Mike confronted Shred about the server he was running, implied Shred shouldn't do it if he wanted to stay in MOB. Then in discussion with the rest of MOB, Mike goes on to say that Shred was practically stealing donations from MOB because he was accepting donations for his server. Important point here which was purposefully left out, Shred never saw a dime. He had donations setup so they went directly to the company hosting the server. The same server people in MOB were playing on and was setup when needed for a MOB TWL match. So I ask you exactly where is the problem? But when it was discussed with the rest of MOB, it was clearly implied he was trying to make money from using the MOB name in his server. Which as I already pointed out, was total bullshit.
What's really stupid is every time anyone questions how an admin handles a situation, their 1st response is to act all offended that someone would question what they did. Throw back into any one's face who questions them, how they do all this work for MOB. Yet, here we have Shred who was not only willing but interested in learning the server side but was flat out told no. So yes he was pissed, but he had a reason to be.
In summary, here are the lies that lead up to Mike confronting Shred about his server and why his server had to go if Shred was to stay in MOB.
Oh wait, I know some people get their panties all in a bind if I call what they do "lies". So let me use NEW admins preferred terminology.
Lies are not lies, they are convenient, self serving misrepresentations of factual events.
According to Mike's "convenient, self serving misrepresentations of factual events"
1) All servers should be on the dedicated box MOB rents.
Bullshit. Did you forget about this?
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...c=12681&hl=
MOB took over the MW server and it wasn't moved to the dedicated box for months. ( BTW the server was only moved after Steel threw a tempter tantrum after someone asked about the lack of private slots, more on that later )
2) People shouldn't run their own servers as it causes problems.
Bullshit. Did you forget about this?
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...c=13121&hl=
Mike didn't care when Steel ran a server outside of MOB's box, so it wasn't a big deal. Once you accept that fact, then it becomes apparent the ONLY issue was WHO was running the server. If you think I'm wrong, then I would love you to explain this. When Steel decides to close the (MOB) fly planes server which she ran on her own just like shred, what was Mike's immediate response?
http://www.mobclan.com/forums/upload/index...c=13609&hl=
Again without any discussion with the rest of MOB or moments hesitation Mike decides to move the server onto MOB's dedicated box.
Not that I have an problem with Mike doing that, it was probably the right thing to do. My question is why wasn't the same thing done for Shred's server if the only issue was it being operated outside of MOB's control or not on MOB's dedicated server. I'm sure the Admin apologist will find someway to explain this away just like every other issue. To me, I think it's clear to anyone who has more than a few brains cells to rub together, the ONLY issue was WHO was running the server.
All admit this next part is only my personal conclusion but it's based on my knowledge of what was going on behind the scenes at the time. I only bring it up because it's important to explain WHY I think Shred was dealt with the way he was.
http://mobclan.com/druid/Shred_ignore.jpg
In one of the private discussions which took place after NC, Axel, and Bloodhound was banned, Mike said he was unhappy with Shred's post. Mike was disappointed that Shred, such a new member to MOB should have attacked another MOB member much less an "ADMIN" like Steel. Personally if you go back an read the post it comes across as a joke not an attack but that's not how Mike saw it. Mike may have also been influenced by the fact Shred was friends with NC, Axel, and Bloodhound an spoke out in their defense. Either way, it's my personal opinion that post by Shred may have been the beginning of the end for him.
I'm sure some people are shaking their heads, thinking to themselves
"that's plain stupid, the admins aren't so petty they would hold a grudge against him over a forum post, especially one where it looks more like an attempt at humor than an attack"
Well it you think some of your admins aren't petty enough to do just that, then you're either extremely naive or simply stupid. I will happily show just how petty they are but 1st there is one last controversy surrounding Blam I would like to clear up.
This has to do with the Blam member who was banned over at the new MOB site. Allegedly while in the process of validating the persons forum account it some how mysteriously started a download onto the admins computer. While it's beyond silly for someone to make such a claim, for right now I'll stick with what I found as glaring inconsistencies when this subject was brought up.
I would simply link to the forum post over at the New-N-Improved MOB site but their forum suffers from this strange problem where any post which may bring into question something a Admin says or does has a habit of disappearing. So just in case their forum conveniently suffers from the disappearing topic problem AGAIN, here are copies of the post in question.
Page 1
http://mobclan.com/druid/Blam_Ban_1.htm
Page 2
http://mobclan.com/druid/Blam_Ban_2.htm
Here are some of the inconsistencies I found when the Admin's replied to the question.
1) The admins were asked to explain how this phantom download happen and were unable to. They couldn't even say what the download was like. Was it a graphical like a game loading screen, was it a text message. They couldn't remember anything about it, only that it happened. Suddenly they were as forgetful as some senile senior, wandering around asking where am I? I'll be nice an give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, since some of the MOB admins are senior citizens and probably prone to bouts of forgetfulness.
2) The admins were asked to supply this phantom download link as proof but wouldn't/couldn't
3) During both the public discussion and private replies with Blam members, the admins said the ban had nothing to do with Blam. The MOB admins made it a point to claim this had nothing to do with Blam, they plead their innocence stating they didn't even know it was a Blam member. This would be another stupid lie because if they didn't know this was a Blam member or had anything to do with BLAM as they so innocently try to proclaim. Then why did the ban message when the person returned to the forum say "He was banned because of a BLAM download"
4) In the private discussion with Blam after this happened, again the admins claimed there was no way they could have know the person was a Blam member. This would be another lie, the only information a forum admin has to go when deciding to either validate or deny an account is.
Name
Email Address
IP Address.
The admins stated during the discussion that they investigate each account before approving it. They were quick to point out it had nothing to do with Blam because the person didn't register under his Blam name or using Blam tags. This would be one of the few things they said which was actually true. As they said themselves, they check each account before approving it. There are only two things to check
email address <--- which there is nothing to check.
IP address <---- The only way to check this would be against the IP list of other forum accounts an IP's listed in the game server logs.
When they checked the server logs, the IP would have matched up to a player wearing Blam Tags
http://www.gametracker.com/server/8.9.4.85...%5D%20As-Saffa/
I just proved if you checked, you would have know it was a Blam member and you guys said you check every account.

So please don't try any tell anyone there is no way you could have known it was a Blam member.
When you lie in the future, try and do a better job because you make it to easy for me.

5) Also during the public discussion, the admins claimed this subject was discussed at great length before they came to the decision to ban the member. This is their own words.
From Steel's reply
"You know that every registration is validated by one of the team of forum admins. Typically if a registration is bogus, it's simply not validated. I read the report, participated in the discussion about this specific registration, concurred with the ban, and still do.
While the admin was trying to validate the info supplied, one of the pieces started an auto-download of something onto his computer. A virus?? A program?? Spyware?? He couldn't even cancel out of it, but had to force-quit the download and go through all the hassle of checking his computer for spyware & viruses.
I think you'll agree that if that happened to you, you'd be pissed, as was our forums admin."

The important parts of her post would be....
one of the pieces started an auto-download of something onto his computer
He couldn't even cancel out of it
which would imply Mike, would it not?
Then later 6pak joins the discussion and claims it happened to her.
So that means, even though Steel says this problem was discussed at length before the decision was made to ban the person, they never got around to discussing which admin it happened to? Give me a break.
You tell me, does that make any sense? Do you find it even slightly believable?
My personal guess is this was done by either Mike or Steel or they decided this together after matching his IP on the server logs to a Blam member. Then 6pak is forced to jump in to take credit because she knows she's the only one with an ounce of credibility left.
6) Even if you overlook every other issue, one simple fact remains.
There is absolutely no way something like this could have happened, it's beyond stupid to claim it did.
I know most of you have no clue what is done when an admin validates an account.
To help everyone out and show how incredibly stupid this accusation is, here is a video showing what's involved in validating a forum account.
( I would appreciate it if the MOB adminds refrained from clicking on either link as I don't want to get blamed for it starting an unstoppable download, Feel free to get a copy form one of your trusted members. )
http://mobclan.com/druid/RealForum.wmv
Now here is a video of what they claim happened.
http://mobclan.com/druid/FakeForum.wmv


For those of you who still don't get it, there is no way this could have happened.
The only information someone signing up on the forum can enter is their email address. There is no way an email address could start an UNSTOPPABLE download onto anyones' computer. You can't even claim the person was able to somehow sneak a malicious download link in place of the email link because the forum checks to make sure the email address supplied follows the correct format. Don't believe me? Then I suggest you try it yourself, go try an register on your forum. If you put anything but something like....
whoever@where-ever.com
where it ask for your email, then the forum won't process your registration, it returns an error message.
The ONLY thing that would have happened if an admin clicked on the email address while checking the persons registration, is it may have opened their email program. The exact same way as if you click on a web address it opens your internet browser.
If your admins can't tell the difference between them clicking on an email address, which opens their email client and some phantom UNSTOPPABLE malicious download. Then I think it's far to say they are to stupid to be an admin and probably should stop using computers all together before they hurt themselves.

Is there anyone who honestly believes this story? Do you honestly think it was only coincidence this person was banned right around the same time a long term Regs member leaves to join Blam?
Don't get me wrong, it's your forum you can do whatever you want. It's completely within your rights to ban every member of Blam if that's how you get your rocks off. You could also ban every member who's name starts with the letter B or maybe you could ban everyone who's favorite color is RED. You know why you don't, because it would be stupid but not near as stupid as claiming it was because of some phantom download.
You want to know what the worse part is.
***After making this stupid, false accusation.
***After making this be about BLAM by saying it was a BLAM download.
***After accusing Blam of trying to create drama when Blitz asked about it, When you guys would have asked the same question if the situation was reversed.
*** After Steel makes a fool of herself claiming the only reason the person registered was to cause problems.
*** After saying the ban would never be lifted
What happens when this Stupid accusation is brought under the slightest scrutiny? The ban is quickly removed, Why? because the admins didn't want to try an defend their lies an bullshit excuse why the person was banned.
If it had happened the way they said, they would not have been so quick to remove the ban. They knew they were wrong, so unbanning the guy was the quickest way to make the problem go away.
I honestly don't understand how it doesn't bother more people when you're repeatedly lied to like that.
If having people lie to you is how you get your kicks, who am I to judge.You've found yourself the perfect home.
Just don't waste your time crying about how wrong I am. These are the facts and I highly doubt they will be disputed.



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