Kicked from Barbarossa Options

[majorhavoc]

I'm gonna weigh in here, for better or for worse.

There are guys who play here who can't seem to take the stuff that they dish out. I'm NOT going to name names, but there are people on this server who bitch and whine and taunt others with name calling but CANNOT stand when something happens to them. This is a perfect example of that.

I've seen Lyonhart whine and taunt regularly and is NEVER reprimanded (nor do any of us regulars care about it). But if someone bumps him with a jeep, he wants them KICKED? Give me a break...it's the epitome of hypocrisy.

After looking at the log I'm guessing he shouldn't have been kicked.
Freely was playing on the axis team, no one just prior the the t/k complaint had been t/ked.
Hellfighter took someone else on their word that Freely was t/king but it appears he wasn't.

For the question concerning if he has played under another name. Freely started playing on the server the 2nd day it was up. Since then, he has been on over 60+ days, always under the same name.

You'll find that IPFreely me and 6FootUnder are some of your more gracious guests.

[Maj. H8Red]

The-Blind-Norwegian

Hey, who let the pak whore in here? Man, I tell ya you & Rommel should both get kicked everytime either one of ya gets on a 45 j/k...

[HammaTime]

All of us wielding the kick stick need to use it with care. I'm certainly not immune from accusations of responding to the loud complaints of other players by kicking a player based upon those complaints. I've also fallen victim to this very thing. I first entered these forums after being kicked when some noobs were accusing me of hacking in Kursk. The MOB member at the time accused me of hacking and my response was, "It is called skill." Next thing I knew, I was out the door.

I'm damn glad I was kicked that day, as it brought me to these forums where the injustice was corrected, a very nice apology was made and I soon discovered MOB was a great place to hang.

I've been impressed with Cross of Iron's responsible approach. If people are complaining about a particular player, he doesn't hesitate to put himself in Spec mode to follow the player. He then wields the stick if he sees something that is kick or ban-worthy. Not many of us are willing to take the time, but Cross is dedicated and he respects the power that he has been granted. We should all be so dedicated.

[Maj. H8Red]

The MOB member at the time accused me of hacking and my response was, "It is called skill." Next thing I knew, I was out the door.

Um yeah, I still am not gonna admit to that.......

[Silver]

I've been impressed with Cross of Iron's responsible approach.

you got some brown stuff on your nose...

as for ipfreely, im glad to see he isnt a tk'r but it does happen often, more then needed. I use judgement when I kick, like if I know the person complaining, then warnings, (maybe spectate) then kick. depending on the situation and what is needed.

unfortunatly there is always human error, hell is a good man and wouldnt kick you if he didnt feel it nessary. you may not have tk'd but he says your response was what got you kicked in general.

w/e get over it...
it was a kick and not a ban be happy for that.

major havoc dont complain half assed... thats BS if your gonna say something SAY IT... dont beat around the bush.

[HammaTime]

you got some brown stuff on your nose...

JUST MY NOSE?! Man, that means I have to dive in deeper!

[majorhavoc]

w/e get over it...
it was a kick and not a ban be happy for that.

Is that another way of saying "we're sorry"?

[Silver]

no its another way of saying it was a kick, wasnt a ban... we kick to let our members on the server... so... no one was banned... why are you stiring up shit?

[majorhavoc]

no its another way of saying it was a kick, wasnt a ban... we kick to let our members on the server... so... no one was banned... why are you stiring up shit?

He was kicked because he was falsley accused of TKing, not to make room for an MOB member...

[Cpt.Canuck]

Good discussion here, but I think the problem has been resolved (or exhausted).



Now - get back to havin' fun with Barby!

[<Dolphin>*Girl*]

He was kicked because he was falsley accused of TKing, not to make room for an MOB member...

so? with 30 ppl on a server and tricky tk'rs im not gonna spend all my game time watching ppl.


normal conversation
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me-noob stop tking

noob-(defenseive) wasnt me/silence

it was you

(silence)- kick


havoc plz stop making this worse then it is...

[MFD IPFreely]

Just to set the record straight .. I have nothing against Hellfighter. He was just doing what was asked of him by a fellow teammate. The problem was that the fellow teammate doesnt like me because I kill him occasionally. I bumped lyonhart but I didnt TK him and didnt think I needed to apologize for that.

I dont want or need an apology .. the info that Druid provided was enough for me.

I just want to kill people.

[Hellfighter]

.....
I dont want or need an apology .. the info that Druid provided was enough for me.

Well.... you'll get an apology from me my chum. Sorry about that Chris. Fortunately you've been around me to know I'm not trully malicious against folks out to have fun playing. Like I said before- I'll never boot someone for not apologizing for an accidental tk, let alone a bump!! That's one reason why I asked Druid to input here so I myself could get clarification on the real events.

I'm aware of Lyonheart [ a chum too ] getting very excited at times, but last night the fuss he kicked up was extra 'emphatic' -on vent - thus some of you were not aware of this dialogue besides the typed-global and team chat. So I took him at his word. I really do avoid booting at all costs, even on the rare occasion when I'm getting called cussy names more out of frustration or someone acting bratty-silly. I've kicked 3 [2?] folks in 3 weeks and definately on those occasions for tk'ing only, either seen by myself OR a whole bunch of folks playing pointing out such a villain.

Anyways I'll do things different now; I used to spectate and get screenshots of evil situations before I became MOB, so I think I'll return to that more thorough approach.... the folks that I know to get excitable that make a call for my use of punitive powers will get a much more scrutinized investigation first on my part.

Well, the good thing about this thread is it raises some good issues. So, humble apologies fellow MOBs and Chris for my booboo, but it was a judgement call which more often than not I get right.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 03/30/06 6:38am

[Hellfighter]

w/e get over it...
it was a kick and not a ban be happy for that.

Is that another way of saying "we're sorry"?

Well Havoc my chum, I'm not going to grovel over it - there's no 'we're' about it - it was my flaw alone..... "Sorry I made an incorrect judgement call and I'm doing things more thoroughly than usual in the future." is enough.


This post has been edited by Hellfighter: 03/29/06 8:23pm

[HammaTime]

Nicely put, HF.

I had a funny thing happen this evening. Cross and I were on Stocks ... okay, maybe I was the only one who thought it was funny...

He had just come into the game. I thought he was spectating when I saw an American running at my tank. I opened up with the mg only to hear Cross pleading "don't shoot, it's me!" I stopped firing and immediately worried someone would witness this obvious sedition on my part. I didn't know what Cross was doing, but I turned my attention on some tanks that had opened fire on my position. Out of the corner of my eye I see Cross run around my tank, disappearing behind me. A second later, I'm blown to smithereens by Cross's RPG!! The bastard!

I respawned to the sounds of him convulsing in fits of laughter. I did the only sensible thing. I brought down the console and put the big kick stick on him! It worked perfectly. He thought it was Punk Buster that had kicked him (a problem he has been grappling with all week), now I was the one rolling on the floor. The only problem was, when he tried to reenter, he was told he couldn't re-enter for 20 minutes. I had to confess and apologize.

Something is different. For some time, a kick on the Stock server was only momentary, a player could come right back in. Obviously, PB has been reset so that the default time is back to the standard 20 minutes. My bad. Cross filled his down time by reading the forums to me as I continued to battle! He'd pause after every thread to remind me of the pain I was to suffer upon his return! HA!

So, the moral of the story is simple, if you are going to use the kick stick as a joke, be sure to specify 0 minutes!